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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    It sould all be steady never peaks and valleys.
    On a statistical basis yes but there will be always somebody responding different than avg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    On a statistical basis yes but there will be always somebody responding different than avg.
    Yes I think this is my problem. I don't get on with nebido and can't have Sustanon because I'm allergic to peanuts. My endo doesn't have access to any other esters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    On a statistical basis yes but there will be always somebody responding different than avg.
    True bizz, but a good endo who knows what they are talking about will have you on the right protocol to minimise this.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny8888 View Post
    Yes I think this is my problem. I don't get on with nebido and can't have Sustanon because I'm allergic to peanuts. My endo doesn't have access to any other esters.


    Where are you from jonny ?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    True bizz, but a good endo who knows what they are talking about will have you on the right protocol to minimise this.

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    Where are you from jonny ?.
    Am based in surrey UK

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    So I saw my GP today and he gave me the following bloods

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    I'll be getting this done next week, 4 weeks after my nebido shot. He also gave me a second sheet with same tests, which I will do 2 weeks after my next shot (which should be the peak)

    He also gave me this print out which was very interesting.

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    These are all the testosterone tests I have ever had done. Bare in mind I have never had my nebido tested at peak, only ever atleast six weeks after shot which is usually where it crashes. The spike you see was actually when i was being treated with testogel. So maybe going back to the gels isnt such a terrible idea, but the only thing is the half life. Maybe I can persuade my endo to let me do two doses a day? Would be a bit of pain in the ass though!

    Current thoery is nebido isnt delivering even dose over 10 weeks, rather a very high dose at the start, resulting in high e2 and/or prolactic.

    He's also referred me to professor david russell-jones at the royal surrey who looks to be a pretty good endo to get a second opionion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    True bizz, but a good endo who knows what they are talking about will have you on the right protocol to minimise this.
    My former endo is a professor and researcher at local university and has published several academic papers about nebido, he couldn't help for the simple reason he has to stick with clinically validated protocols and that means a 10-14 weeks interval. If you don't respond well then it's your problem. TU is great but I needed split pins, I've been on TE for over a year by now but I miss the stability of TU, I think I'll jump back on in the near future but I'll be doing it my way next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    If you don't respond well then it's your problem. .

    Quite the myopic view by your old endo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Quite the myopic view by your old endo.
    Nice use of the word 'myopic'. I like it when the smart guys in the forum use a big vocabulary - helps dispel the "dumb jock" stereotype. And then I can use the words myself, whether I know what they mean or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Quite the myopic view by your old endo.
    I had to google it hahaha. Another one kel that has a title but no clue about hormones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Nice use of the word 'myopic'. I like it when the smart guys in the forum use a big vocabulary - helps dispel the "dumb jock" stereotype. And then I can use the words myself, whether I know what they mean or not...

    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    I had to google it hahaha. Another one kel that has a title but no clue about hormones.

    I've got a plethora of them. And that's no canard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Quite the myopic view by your old endo.
    It's not the individual is the system. Even if the issue is clear he can't differ protocol than standard, that's how it rolls. I proposed to do 2x split pins but he replied "it just can't be done".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    It's not the individual is the system. Even if the issue is clear he can't differ protocol than standard, that's how it rolls. I proposed to do 2x split pins but he replied "it just can't be done".

    That's bad. I guess in their eyes one size fits all.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    My former endo is a professor and researcher at local university and has published several academic papers about nebido, he couldn't help for the simple reason he has to stick with clinically validated protocols and that means a 10-14 weeks interval. If you don't respond well then it's your problem. TU is great but I needed split pins, I've been on TE for over a year by now but I miss the stability of TU, I think I'll jump back on in the near future but I'll be doing it my way next time.
    Do you get prescribed TE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny8888 View Post
    Do you get prescribed TE?
    Nope but I still hold a diagnosis of low T and a prescription for nebido and testogel, anytime I can hit my GP and ask for anything related to my condition that's available here: Test E, -U, -P, sustanon, proviron, and gels.

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