Prescribed Nebido, need input please!

[kelkel]

Ok so you know your test is low. Question is why? Is it pituitary related or testicular related (secondary or primary) or a combination of both? I would never enter into TRT without knowing exactly why it's low and whether it can be fixed or not, especially at your age. I'd hate to have that on my conscience.

Some things that can/will effect hormone levels are thyroid, prolactin and cortisol. It would be nice to see these levels along with LH/FSH which shows pituitary finction. Have you suffered any head or testicular trauma? Been checked for varicoceles? So many things can play into this.

Regarding your choices, clomid is not a joke. It's a viable alternative and used by many as a form of TRT. Especially those who are young and concerned with procreation in the future. Problem is your doctor wants to add HCG in with it which is counter productive. HCG is suppressive to LH/FSH output over time while clomid is stimulatory. HCG is just not needed whatsoever in this scenario.

Testomax = no.

Re your doc giving you clomid to control E2 levels is another ridiculous option. Clomid will do nothing to control estrogen levels. WTF is he thinking, or actually not thinking....

There are plenty of guys here on Nebido and they will chime in soon. They all seem to love it as well. I don't quite understand the HCG protocol you listed with it though. You're saying that HCG is used only one week per month at a dosage of 500 IU's x 3? If so that's ridiculous. HCG should be used consistently for best results. It simply makes no sense to only take it one week out of the month. It would be like only taking a normal estered testosterone (cyp/en) for one week out of the month and expecting positive results. Won't happen. HCG is about far more than just maintaining testicular function. Read the sticky at the top of this forum on it please.

Do not self-medicate via your friend. That would be a mistake. I'd seriously press your doctor to find the causative factor here and discuss ways to correct it. If it's not possible then at least you can enter into TRT with a clear conscience.

[ShaRkKy]

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[ShaRkKy]

Ok so you know your test is low. Question is why? Is it pituitary related or testicular related (secondary or primary) or a combination of both? I would never enter into TRT without knowing exactly why it's low and whether it can be fixed or not, especially at your age. I'd hate to have that on my conscience.

Some things that can/will effect hormone levels are thyroid, prolactin and cortisol. It would be nice to see these levels along with LH/FSH which shows pituitary finction. Have you suffered any head or testicular trauma? Been checked for varicoceles? So many things can play into this.

Regarding your choices, clomid is not a joke. It's a viable alternative and used by many as a form of TRT. Especially those who are young and concerned with procreation in the future. Problem is your doctor wants to add HCG in with it which is counter productive. HCG is suppressive to LH/FSH output over time while clomid is stimulatory. HCG is just not needed whatsoever in this scenario.

Testomax = no.

Re your doc giving you clomid to control E2 levels is another ridiculous option. Clomid will do nothing to control estrogen levels. WTF is he thinking, or actually not thinking....

There are plenty of guys here on Nebido and they will chime in soon. They all seem to love it as well. I don't quite understand the HCG protocol you listed with it though. You're saying that HCG is used only one week per month at a dosage of 500 IU's x 3? If so that's ridiculous. HCG should be used consistently for best results. It simply makes no sense to only take it one week out of the month. It would be like only taking a normal estered testosterone (cyp/en) for one week out of the month and expecting positive results. Won't happen. HCG is about far more than just maintaining testicular function. Read the sticky at the top of this forum on it please.

Do not self-medicate via your friend. That would be a mistake. I'd seriously press your doctor to find the causative factor here and discuss ways to correct it. If it's not possible then at least you can enter into TRT with a clear conscience.

thank you for your reply. I know i've been this way for over 2years now (with the symptoms)
I have been checked for varicoceles. clear. After all the examination he said that my testis are lazy. I didnt mention the other results that weren't on hand during the time of this post.

LH is 2.62 mIU/mL Normal Range is 1.7 - 8.6 mIU/mL
FSH is 1.85 mIU/mL Normal Range is 1.5 - 12.4 mIU/mL
Prolactin is 6.38 ng/ml Normal Range is 4.04 - 15.2 ng/mL

I know i was so confused when he mentioned clomid because i've been doing alot of reading lately and I was already following such matter earlier to my diagnosis.
I have noticed a knowledgeable member named marcus300 and I hope he can provide his input from his Nebido experience.

HCG is 3xweek / one week out of a month which I never read on forums that is actually practiced. Usually i see 3x week of 250iu to 500iu.....
I did question his practice when I was there and he told me all his patients are following the same protocol and its standard. the only thing he would change is injection frequency from 12 week to as low as 9weeks.

I know an AI should be on hand just in case my e2 rises but when i told him that he said yeah ill give you clomid?? :/
This urologist is recommended and is always booked. which seems weird.

I am going to purchase the nebido since my prescription expires after 2 days.. however i will not proceed unless I set my mind to it and get everything settled.