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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Eq is one of the most useless compounds


    For every person saying that, there are 2 more saying its amazing without being too harsh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles1 View Post
    For every person saying that, there are 2 more saying its amazing without being too harsh!
    Well what eq takes forever and a day to do, many other compounds can accomplish its results quicker, Anavar, masterone, tren (of course), anadrol, etc. Eeven winstrol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Well what eq takes forever and a day to do, many other compounds can accomplish its results quicker, Anavar, masterone, tren (of course), anadrol, etc. Eeven winstrol

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    I was under the impression EQ was a great adition to a second cycle. Test and EQ for 16 weeks.... Not too harsh, not many sides, increasded red blood count meaning better cardio....... Seems the perfect compound to add for a second cycle if you ask me. Personally Im never going to try Tren, Anadrol or Winstrol for various reasons.....

    Id be interested to hear why Test + Mast would be better for cutting. I thought you had to be below 10% BF for Masteron to shine??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles1 View Post
    I was under the impression EQ was a great adition to a second cycle. Test and EQ for 16 weeks.... Not too harsh, not many sides, increasded red blood count meaning better cardio....... Seems the perfect compound to add for a second cycle if you ask me. Personally Im never going to try Tren, Anadrol or Winstrol for various reasons.....

    Id be interested to hear why Test + Mast would be better for cutting. I thought you had to be below 10% BF for Masteron to shine??
    The biggest drawback to EQ is for guys that do not blast and cruise or are not on TRT, the reason being is the long run time 16+ weeks makes for a longer term HPTA shutdown and thus a bit harder recovery . Being on TRT though I can run EQ for months on end and not worry about suppression. Plenty of guys can handle a 16+ week cycle and come back just fine (its all person dependent).

    the increased RBC of EQ is not as pronounced as most people think , but it does happen (not as near as pronounced as say Anadrol). Be aware that if your been on gear for years, like myself, this increased RBC is not necessarily a good thing as my blood gets too thick and I have to donate.. but yes there are several benefits to increasing RBC , and its not just cardio.

    The real benefit to Masteron is its strong affinity towards SHBG , what this does is it frees up more testosterone in the body to be used for muscle building and AR activation as well as works as a slight anti e . This happens no matter what your BF% is , though being low body fat will bring out the muscle definition and allow you to better see how the compound is changing your physique .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles1 View Post
    For every person saying that, there are 2 more saying its amazing without being too harsh!
    most people that think EQ is a weak and slow compound is simply because they are more used to high estrogen and highly androgenic side effects (those sides are pronounced and easy to fill),, whereas EQ is much more anabolic and working in the 'background'. its designed for lean steady tissue gains (not water and glycogen).
    it also improves tendons and joints and promotes collagen synthesis (theres a reason why they give it to race horses).

    Personally I run EQ with every cycle I do and cruise on it at low dose with my TRT .. but yeah it takes time. don't bother with it in an 8 week cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    most people that think EQ is a weak and slow compound is simply because they are more used to high estrogen and highly androgenic side effects (those sides are pronounced and easy to fill),, whereas EQ is much more anabolic and working in the 'background'. its designed for lean steady tissue gains (not water and glycogen).
    it also improves tendons and joints and promotes collagen synthesis (theres a reason why they give it to race horses).

    Personally I run EQ with every cycle I do and cruise on it at low dose with my TRT .. but yeah it takes time. don't bother with it in an 8 week cycle
    EQ is most def the next injectable compound I would add if I was to do so... I still may use it in Cycle 2 for cutting with a low Test dose... We will see.


    Do you have any knowledge on Test + EQ vs Test + Mast??


    16 weeks minimum ive read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles1 View Post
    EQ is most def the next injectable compound I would add if I was to do so... I still may use it in Cycle 2 for cutting with a low Test dose... We will see.


    Do you have any knowledge on Test + EQ vs Test + Mast??


    16 weeks minimum ive read!
    Never did anythimy other than 16 weeks test with var the last 4 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    Never did anythimy other than 16 weeks test with var the last 4 weeks.

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    Why 16 weeks mate and not the recommended 12???

    Also was that your first cycle ?

    Would love to know how anavar affected the cycle from someone who’s done Test only and Test + Var.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles1 View Post
    Why 16 weeks mate and not the recommended 12???

    Also was that your first cycle ?

    Would love to know how anavar affected the cycle from someone who’s done Test only and Test + Var.
    Because I just wanted to use up what I had.

    Imho, I didn't use var at high enough dose or duration to make a diff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles1 View Post
    EQ is most def the next injectable compound I would add if I was to do so... I still may use it in Cycle 2 for cutting with a low Test dose... We will see.


    Do you have any knowledge on Test + EQ vs Test + Mast??


    16 weeks minimum ive read!
    EQ is a type 1 steroid very similar to testosterone but with half the androgenic and estrogenic effects (think of it as a clean testosterone) . Masteron is a DHT derived steroid that does not convert to estrogen and has some anti-estrogenic properties and a very strong affinity to bind to SHBG which in turn frees up and allows testosterone and other AAS to work better and bind to AR.

    They are very different steroids on paper , but they are both very 'clean' and similar and side free drugs when taken even at high dosages.


    This is how I use EQ -- I essentially use it as a 'mild' side free testosterone . When I blast I used to run 1000mg of test (along with whatever cycle I would run) ,, but now instead of blasting 1000mg of pure test I simply add 750mg of EQ to my 250mg TRT dose of test .. this gives me the one gram base line to blast from and its much less side effects then pure test.

    This is how I use Masteron -- I simply throw it in most cycles (unless its a pure 'wet' bulk) to get the benefits of the synergistic effects it gives by freeing up more androgen receptors an allowing other drugs to work more effectively with minimal dosages . The 'hardening' effects have a lot to do with it allowing other drugs , like Tren, to work better and fill out the muscles with more glycogen as well as Masterons slight anti-estrgeon effects (the lower the estrogen the drier you will look, but you'll also fill shitty).


    either EQ or Masteron can be used on a cut , thats just all diet dependent .

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