Tren test cycle lookin good?

[The Deadlifting Dog]

if I had a client that was already decent size and he planned on doing only 3 AAS cycles per year

when following time on + PCT = time off...
it is impossible to do 3 cycles per year

[GearHeaded]

when following time on + PCT = time off...
it is impossible to do 3 cycles per year

I'd never advise anyone that was serious about enhanced bodybuilding go that route . its fine for the 24year old 160 pounds newbs that drop by these forums and I understand why that advice is given, and I'd give the same to that type of person . but for anyone serious and committed then its best to go 'all in' and commit to either TRT for life, or blast and cruise with 8 week detoxes once a year.

I don't think any elite level enhanced bodybuilder ever went time on + PCT =time off, and built the physique that they have following that methodology (its far from optimal , and in some cases can be detrimental) . its a great way to go 2 steps backwards and one step forward , I prefer committed people take 2 steps forward though, and only 1 step backwards when needed.

just because that Pct philosophy is popular and parroted in 'public' forums does not mean its in anyway ideal for bodybuilding (and some people will even say its not even ideal for overall health).

but I realize a lot of guys visiting these forums are by no means 'bodybuilders' , and so 2 cycles per year with tons of PCT and down time might be best for those average gym goers


edit: of course to be honest, I've never done a single PCT in my life, so I'm probably a bit biased. yes I've detoxed and came off of gear, but never once did I use cancer drugs as my form of detox when I went off.

[charger69]

GH I agree with what you said and I still compete and will not even consider cutting without a cycle: I guess where the confusion is is in a non competitor trying to get down to 5-6% bf. IMO there is no need and it is not healthy. I do agree that getting down below 8% you do need a cutting cycle for the optimization.
OP is at 18% probably higher. Getting down to 10-12% and I am sure that he would be extremely happy.