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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    Hello guys, i've found this recent study on AAS use/abuse and its impact on heart and cardiovascular profile.

    Cardiovascular Toxicity of Illicit Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid UseClinical Perspective | Circulation

    It seems very accurated.
    To answer your original question.

    This is an inaccurate study.

    Each individual would need to have the same baseline lipid levels, they would have needed to use the same amount of gear, same compounds, same diet as we all know a shit diet is one of the main contributors to shot lipid profiles..

    With that being said, we all know that steroids have an adverse affects on your heart. Your hearts a muscle, steroids increase the growth of muscle.. (Simply put)... An enlarged heart is an issue, plus the effects steroids have on your panels even when used "safely" combined with a healthy diet.

    Long term effects are inescapable regardless of how the steroids are used...

    This study is pretty much just stating the obvious... I am just pointing out that even though what they are saying is true, their approach wouldn't have been accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eduke93 View Post
    To answer your original question.

    This is an inaccurate study.

    Each individual would need to have the same baseline lipid levels, they would have needed to use the same amount of gear, same compounds, same diet as we all know a shit diet is one of the main contributors to shot lipid profiles..

    With that being said, we all know that steroids have an adverse affects on your heart. Your hearts a muscle, steroids increase the growth of muscle.. (Simply put)... An enlarged heart is an issue, plus the effects steroids have on your panels even when used "safely" combined with a healthy diet.

    Long term effects are inescapable regardless of how the steroids are used...

    This study is pretty much just stating the obvious... I am just pointing out that even though what they are saying is true, their approach wouldn't have been accurate.
    In brief, as you stated what is in bold: *ALL* AAS users/abusers should have some permanent AAS-induced issue, regardless their conscientious use, am i right ? The question now is: is really so ? Could we state that all long-term AAS users, today report some permanent AAS-induced issue ?

    With "issue" i refer to some an unhealthy permanent condition ( AAS-induced ), which limit a good life going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    In brief, as you stated what is in bold: *ALL* AAS users/abusers should have some permanent AAS-induced issue, am i right ? The question now is: is really so ? Could we state that all long-term AAS users, today report some permanent AAS-induced issue ?

    With "issue" i refer to some an unhealthy permanent condition ( AAS-induced ), which limit a good life going.
    Correct, and i did define long term to be around 10 year mark.

    Having an increase of coronary atherosclerosis due to steroid use wont directly impact your life straight away... so no it will not limit a good life but it will decrease the length of your life and could decrease the quality of your last years.. that is dependant on if you stop using and focus on repairing the damage. Coronary atherosclerosis is reversible but not all the time... depends on the level in which the walls have thickened.

    This is one of many problems...

    To conclude, long term steroid use will have an adverse effect on your health. If you abuse you are likely to experience worse side effects in comparison to those who use steroids long term with a "safer" approach.

    Dependant on genetics, diet and compounds used. Some will be more prone to problems in comparison to others.

    and... FYI i am not against steroid use. As long as you understand the consequences and are willing to accept the possibilities then its your own choice.

    Personally i have been using for the past 4 years on and off and have decided to discontinue my use. Health comes first.
    Last edited by Eduke93; 11-23-2017 at 11:02 AM.

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