5 weeks + 24 pounds

[TestoSuper]

high calories and heavy training will help you solidify your gains .
When your on cycle doing higher rep volume training is just fine, as AAS use generally helps stimulate sarcoplasmic hypertrophy , but when you come off cycle I recommend switching over to heavier weight more intense style of training (4-7 rep range). forcing your body to move heavy weight at this time will force your body to want to have to keep and maintain its size (force your body to have to acclimate to the new gains)

granite we are all different , have various differing amounts of fiber types, but the above has worked for myself and lots of others.


as for cutting, personally I don't recommend cutting until you reach your desire goal weight and size which could take years (other then occassional 3-5 week mini cuts to improve insulin sensitivity, loose a little body fat, and ultimately to help keep growing).
if your about the size you want to be and now want to really shred up , then a 12 week cut and cycle with Tren is a great option . Imo, Tren is one of the best compounds to cut with (as well as Primo)

honestly no, I have not reached yet the size I want ... so how should I set up? after this 3 months bulking cycle, 2 months of "maintenance", 1 month of "mini cut" (drug free?), and after this another 3 months bulking cycle? What do you suggest?

[GearHeaded]

honestly no, I have not reached yet the size I want ... so how should I set up? after this 3 months bulking cycle, 2 months of "maintenance", 1 month of "mini cut" (drug free?), and after this another 3 months bulking cycle? What do you suggest?

this is a little bit more difficult to set up for guys that don't blast and cruise or not on TRT . when on Trt you can easily do short term blasts of AAS without worrying about your hpta. however for you , you need to wait the length of time for whatever it takes for your body to fully recover . if thats 3 months then just take that time and be at maintenance or slightly above.

THEN when you go to do a mini cut this is the time to plan for your next cycle . I highly recommend enhanced guys use AAS anytime they go into a hypo-caloric diet or cut . we want to keep muscle loss at a minimum especially if growth is still the long term goal . so your mini cut needs to coincide with your next cycle.

so you start your next AAS cycle and for the fist 4 weeks of that cycle you do your mini cut . You'll reset your insulin sensitivity, your body will become more efficient at nutrient partitioning, and you'll lose some body fat. then right after this mini cut your body will be primed for growth , so you go right into a bulk mid way through the AAS cycle .

the first 4 weeks of it is the mini cut on AAS, the next 6 weeks is bulking while on AAS , then you continue bulking into PCT again just like you're doing now .

repeat this process several times per year and after some time you'll grow and have the size and muscle mass your looking for . once your at that stage , then you can do an actual 'show prep' or long 12 week cut and shred down and see what you've really built and developed over the years of sweat and effort .

[TestoSuper]

this is a little bit more difficult to set up for guys that don't blast and cruise or not on TRT . when on Trt you can easily do short term blasts of AAS without worrying about your hpta. however for you , you need to wait the length of time for whatever it takes for your body to fully recover . if thats 3 months then just take that time and be at maintenance or slightly above.

THEN when you go to do a mini cut this is the time to plan for your next cycle . I highly recommend enhanced guys use AAS anytime they go into a hypo-caloric diet or cut . we want to keep muscle loss at a minimum especially if growth is still the long term goal . so your mini cut needs to coincide with your next cycle.

so you start your next AAS cycle and for the fist 4 weeks of that cycle you do your mini cut . You'll reset your insulin sensitivity, your body will become more efficient at nutrient partitioning, and you'll lose some body fat. then right after this mini cut your body will be primed for growth , so you go right into a bulk mid way through the AAS cycle .

the first 4 weeks of it is the mini cut on AAS, the next 6 weeks is bulking while on AAS , then you continue bulking into PCT again just like you're doing now .

repeat this process several times per year and after some time you'll grow and have the size and muscle mass your looking for . once your at that stage , then you can do an actual 'show prep' or long 12 week cut and shred down and see what you've really built and developed over the years of sweat and effort .

interesting what you say ... so in each cycle the first 4 weeks is for cutting and the other 6 weeks + PCT time for bulking ... could be effective and a faster way to grow constantly and clean .. I have to think about it seriously.

[GearHeaded]

interesting what you say ... so in each cycle the first 4 weeks is for cutting and the other 6 weeks + PCT time for bulking ... could be effective and a faster way to grow constantly and clean .. I have to think about it seriously.

see my last post . it explains that my idea is nothing new under the sun, its simply what a lot of bodybuilders have done for years . again I strongly recommend running gear while doing any kind of cut and that you can grow at other times, but cutting is the most important time to be on.

[TestoSuper]

see my last post . it explains that my idea is nothing new under the sun, its simply what a lot of bodybuilders have done for years . again I strongly recommend running gear while doing any kind of cut and that you can grow at other times, but cutting is the most important time to be on.

don't worry, I totally agree with you about the use of AAS during the cutting phase ... the first and only time I did cutting without AAS I lost
practically all the muscles taken during previous bulking phase and very little fat .... the worst experience I've ever had ... The use of AAs during cutting ensures consistent fat loss and simultaneous muscle maintenance.

[GearHeaded]

don't worry, I totally agree with you about the use of AAS during the cutting phase ... the first and only time I did cutting without AAS I lost
practically all the muscles taken during previous bulking phase and very little fat .... the worst experience I've ever had ... The use of AAs during cutting ensures consistent fat loss and simultaneous muscle maintenance.

well when we have the ability to use powerful compounds together like Tren, Clen, VAR, HGH, Insulin, and IGF, not only can we burn fat but we can build muscle at the same time . we have powerful tools at our disposal .
would be impossible for an intermediate natural lifter to burn fat and grow at the same time in a calorie deficit .