Thanks very much for your advice mate i really appreciate it and my mate said something very similar with the dbol except from week 5 go down to 20mg daily for another 4 weeks , he said increase test on week 5-6 too, to 750 a week but from what ive read i think 500mg a week is plenty for first time, he tends to get carried away and forgets its my first time hahaha. Thanks again mate