No PIP first injection.......virgin muscle........tactics

[MACKATTACK]

Second injection into the deltoid (shoulder)........this shot went even smoother.

.8ml of Test E
.4ml of GSO
Hit it with a hairdryer and mixed it inside the syringe
I shot with a 26 Gauge 5/8 needle
Massaged area after the shot
I took a hot shower afterwards and directed the jets on the injection area (worked muscle in the shower and massaged)


This shot went even smoother then the first. No pip so far. About to go to the gym and workout the muscle group I injected into.



Btw I think people need to understand PIP, PIP is the crystallization of the compound in the muscle. I am pretty sure its misused very often. Now I still feel pressure in the muscle from the injection afterwards but thats because the muscle isn't used to being filled with a liquid compound and as the muscle absorbs it this goes away, ala virgin muscle but if you can't handle that then run away, but nothing wrong with doing what you can to reduce PIP from crystallization......

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Btw I think people need to understand PIP, PIP is the crystallization of the compound in the muscle. I am pretty sure its misused very often. Now I still feel pressure in the muscle from the injection afterwards but thats because the muscle isn't used to being filled with a liquid compound and as the muscle absorbs it this goes away, ala virgin muscle but if you can't handle that then run away, but nothing wrong with doing what you can to reduce PIP from crystallization......

other factors can cause pain too..
prop hurts for many...
high solvent concentrations...
badly made dirty gear...
shaky needle injections...
etc...

[MACKATTACK]

other factors can cause pain too..
prop hurts for many...
high solvent concentrations...
badly made dirty gear...
shaky needle injections...
etc...

My understanding PIP is not bad needle injections. Pip is strictly from the compound crashing in the muscle. Thats why prop hurts more because there is more pure compound to crash inside the muscle and cause PIP. I understand pain and or soreness can occur from lots of other variables but PIP specifically was due to crystallization and the term is just misused often.

I just hope I don't get dirty gear and or make the wrong choice of buying high concentrations just to save money lol

[The Deadlifting Dog]

My understanding PIP is not bad needle injections. Pip is strictly from the compound crashing in the muscle. Thats why prop hurts more because there is more pure compound to crash inside the muscle and cause PIP. I understand pain and or soreness can occur from lots of other variables but PIP specifically was due to crystallization and the term is just misused often.

I just hope I don't get dirty gear and or make the wrong choice of buying high concentrations just to save money lol

PIP simply means post-injection pain.

https://www.saintlukeshealthsystem.o...n-inflammation

Tips to ease injection site soreness

I have read that the reason prop hurts many is that the ester once cleaved forms Propionic acid which causes inflammation. I could be totally wrong.

[AlphaMindz]

PIP simply means post-injection pain.

https://www.saintlukeshealthsystem.o...n-inflammation

Tips to ease injection site soreness

I have read that the reason prop hurts many is that the ester once cleaved forms Propionic acid which causes inflammation. I could be totally wrong.

Yeah that's the impression I was under as well. It's interesting what he's saying about soreness coming from the cystallization of the compound in the muscle. Will be interesting to look into that as I've never heard of that,but ultimately what we're talking about is pain at the site of injection after the fact. Where that pain comes from is another conversation (and an interesting one IMO). I my exp there are different causes for PIP. When I started drinking my Winny I realized how much alcohol is in that sh*t cause it literally burns like taking a shot of alcohol, so I'd imagine the pain is coming from that alcohol causing inflammation in the muscle as it sits there and burns a hole in your ass lol.
Another common reason for PIP (and I've seen this with my friends that so their shots really slowly) is moving the needle around too much and causing inflammation from micro tears in the fiber. When I inject I go in quickly, push the plunger, and pull it out quickly. I try to get it done fast so I lower my risk of moving the needle by accident.
I had a friend of mine, using the same gear, who always complained of PIP when I didn't have any. So I told him to do his shot in front of me so I can see how he does it...Homeboy laid down on his side, super slowly put the needle in, and pushed down so slowly it took a solid 45-60 seconds to empty the syringe.. I was like "ok well I see you problem bro, you're scared of the needle and by going so slowly you're moving that b*tch around too much." I did his next shot for em, was done in 10 seconds, and lo and behold NO PIP the next day (when I say no PIP I'm not saying you don't feel ANYTHING the next day, just not enough to consider it pain).