Originally Posted by
Dannyboy51577
Ok so im gonna give you my .02 from a similar sitiation. Im on wk 4 of first prop cycle at 150 eod. Now there will be differing opinions, but the thing i will stress more than anything, is you have to do what works for you. The results, effects, adjustments, aides, etc are very unique to a person and person dependent.
Having said that, the protocol suggested in stickies and from alot of vets, here and other places, suggests starting with an ai from the beginning. The reason for this is that is the safe way to go about it. It is assumed that a majority of new guys will not follow through with necessary bloodwork, and watch how their levels move, and this is on the side of playing it safe so they dont have issues with estrogen running too high. Perfectly safe and sane and would work fine.
Now me, im not a big fan of adding meds into any protocol until i know whether i need them. ** Big point- I am anal about bloodwork, having data, being able to see exactly what is going on when, where and why, and being able to adjust accordingly. So i did bw at 3 wks, ill do again at 6-7 wks, again at 12 wks, then again when i adjust dose. Now thats overkill for sure, but i have the mentality that i will spend money on bw before i spend on aas.
So i didnt start an ai when i started. My E2 was good with my first set of bw, and will check again in couple wks and add in if necessary, and adjust each set of bloods.
If you are going to keep close eye on your bw, levels, etc, I dont see a reason why you have to add an ai off the bat. Unless you start feeling a reason to add it. But if you realistically arent gonna keep up on bw going forward, then it may make sense for you to incorporate it to be on safe side. You wont notice any sort of effects in the first couple days of cycle either way.
But both sides of the debate will agree, E that is too high or too low is not good. So if you are just gonna ride out the cycle and not get any bloods til the end or in 6 months or a year, then i would say add it in to be safe. If you are going to be responsible about watching your levels and not just going off how you feel, then if you dont experience any sort of esteogen related effects- nipple tenderness, swelling of breasts, crying at hallmark movies - you SHOULD be ok without it starting off. I say should, because believe me, everyone is different. I have no issues so far up to my levels, but a good friend started same time as me, and has E issues immediately on same dosage. Aas WILL effect you differently than the next guy taking the exact same. Be diligent and keep on top of it.
Thats my 2 cents
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