Protein intake while on steroids

[Northernpumps]

Would this apply while just on test, for example a TRT patient or someone cruising between cycles or simply just on test in between other compounds ?

[tharris50]

I like and follow this concept for a few reasons. As I get older (50) I am finding it more difficult to digest so much protein and at times just have 100grams a day for several days in a row. I feel better then go back a cple days going a bit higher then coming right back down. Was finding myself getting a lil too sluggish w all that protein all the time

[Gallowmere]

I like and follow this concept for a few reasons. As I get older (50) I am finding it more difficult to digest so much protein and at times just have 100grams a day for several days in a row. I feel better then go back a cple days going a bit higher then coming right back down. Was finding myself getting a lil too sluggish w all that protein all the time

This is problematic on a different level. It’s been repeatedly shown that as people age, their response to protein feedings actually decrease. By the time one is in their 70s, it takes roughly double the protein to elicit the same MPS response as a younger individual.

If your experience is a common one, it’s really no wonder that sarcopenia is so prevalent, when you pair it with the state of the literature.

[GearHeaded]

It’s been repeatedly shown that as people age, their response to protein feedings actually decrease. By the time one is in their 70s, it takes roughly double the protein to elicit the same MPS response as a younger individual.
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this is true. older people have a harder time assimilating protein and synthesizing protein, meaning they have to eat more then they used to when they were younger in order to get the same benefit.
however. this is not all that bad in that normal aging adults carry far less muscle tissue then they used to, and are not building new tissue at a rate that people do when younger.

but perhaps supplementing with fast assimilating proteins like whey isolate may be beneficial for older adults

[kelkel]

\this is true. older people have a harder time assimilating protein and synthesizing protein

Probably why I'm relentlessly crop dusting where ever I go.....

[tharris50]

Probably why I'm relentlessly crop dusting where ever I go.....

Lmao, that's classic!

[Gallowmere]

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this is true. older people have a harder time assimilating protein and synthesizing protein, meaning they have to eat more then they used to when they were younger in order to get the same benefit.
however. this is not all that bad in that normal aging adults carry far less muscle tissue then they used to, and are not building new tissue at a rate that people do when younger.

but perhaps supplementing with fast assimilating proteins like whey isolate may be beneficial for older adults

I’m hoping such will be the case. My girlfriends parents (actually grandparents who adopted her when her mother died) are in their 80s, and both are suffering the typical weakness issues, muscle wasting, etc. After analyzing both of their diets, it came as small wonder. She finally managed to talk them both into protein supplementation, so I am hoping that it will at least slow the process.

That said, they’re both hardheaded and cantankerous as fuck, so I’ll be interested to see if they’ll even stick with it long enough for there to be any kind of benefit.

[tharris50]

This is problematic on a different level. It’s been repeatedly shown that as people age, their response to protein feedings actually decrease. By the time one is in their 70s, it takes roughly double the protein to elicit the same MPS response as a younger individual.

If your experience is a common one, it’s really no wonder that sarcopenia is so prevalent, when you pair it with the state of the literature.

I am not finding that I am losing much muscle mass, I just feel better as o get older not eating so much protein all the time. I still have the same ferocious appetite for it but it doesn't treat me as well as it used to..in my twenties I cld easily eat 3lb of red meat, 1 lb of fish and 2lbs of chicken everyday along w other things, lol..not alot to some but now, I find I dont need so much

[GearHeaded]

Would this apply while just on test, for example a TRT patient or someone cruising between cycles or simply just on test in between other compounds ?

only to a much smaller degree and scale. being on TRT is not going to put you into supra-physiological levels and have all those things like protein turnover etc. that get ramped up and turned on by high dosages.

[Chrisp83TRT]

only to a much smaller degree and scale. being on TRT is not going to put you into supra-physiological levels and have all those things like protein turnover etc. that get ramped up and turned on by high dosages.

This was a good question... What do you suggest for someone cruising after a blast?
What kind of protein intake would you recommend ?

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[GearHeaded]

This was a good question... What do you suggest for someone cruising after a blast?
What kind of protein intake would you recommend ?

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if your just cruising on TRT , or your a regular TRT patient to begin with.. then your "natty" . TRT brings your levels to normal ranges. you don't get all the supra physiological effects and super compensation effects and high protein synthesis and nitrogen retention you would get by being on cycle..
so as a "natty" your not as efficient at using protein and you therefore would need more of it in that state then when your on cycle . you also don't have the awesome nutrient partitioning effects and glycogen retention you get while on cycle ., therefore your carbs should go down.
so natty , protein goes up, carbs go down (unless your just bulking or a power lifter not worried about your physique)

[EDCG19]

Would this apply while just on test, for example a TRT patient or someone cruising between cycles or simply just on test in between other compounds ?

I think it still works just the same but on cycle or when running heavier/higher dosages you're using you will be more efficient than just when you're on TRT but it still works the same you just get more out of a cycle than TRT