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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    muscle is muscle .. the cells and tissue have no clue wither that muscle was built with the help of AAS or built naturally. The whole idea that muscle built with steroids is somehow more susceptible to loss is a bunch of BS.

    the reason you lose gains (or what appears to be muscle) after you come off a cycle is NOT a loss of actual muscle tissue, its simply the loss of the super compensation effect that steroids give in regards to the muscle cells ability to store and hold water, glycogen, and nutrients. When you come off steroids your muscle cells no longer have the ability to store that much, and so the muscle appears to shrink and lose size. but your. not losing any actual muscle tissue you built.

    yes muscle memory is a real thing and your likely to get all your gains back if you get diet and training on track. now to get that full look you had when on cycle, yes you will have to run more cycles again to get that
    Thanks for that GH.
    If this is the case,then i was wrong,as i thought it was a case of start all over again.
    I'll do another cycle in a couple of months,but between now and then,i'm going to have to be a lot smarter with my training.Heavy is causing too many problems,
    so this passed week,i've been using half the weight,more or less perfect form,and making each rep last around eight seconds.This is a lot harder than when i was
    using much heavier weight,and after doing 18 sets for my back the other night,my forearms had become so pumped,i really struggled to grip a pair of dumbells,
    to do curls.The positive,was i only had muscular pain,none in my joints.
    I just hope that when doing another cycle,i'll still be able to get decent results without going heavy,as i just can't do it anymore,without suffering serious injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nogbad the bad View Post
    Thanks for that GH.
    If this is the case,then i was wrong,as i thought it was a case of start all over again.
    I'll do another cycle in a couple of months,but between now and then,i'm going to have to be a lot smarter with my training.Heavy is causing too many problems,
    so this passed week,i've been using half the weight,more or less perfect form,and making each rep last around eight seconds.This is a lot harder than when i was
    using much heavier weight,and after doing 18 sets for my back the other night,my forearms had become so pumped,i really struggled to grip a pair of dumbells,
    to do curls.The positive,was i only had muscular pain,none in my joints.
    I just hope that when doing another cycle,i'll still be able to get decent results without going heavy,as i just can't do it anymore,without suffering serious injury.
    well brother good news is there are lots of ways to progressively overload besides just putting more weight on the bar..

    I've had to learn to do so myself. I've had 4 back surgeries, reconstructed ankle surgery, reconstructive hand surgery, a separated left collar bone, and a current torn right shoulder rotator cuff.

    couple different ways to overload without going heavy.. full range of motion reps with more time under tension (sounds like thats what your doing), adding forced/assisted reps, rest pause method, doing negatives after your regular sets are done, muscle rounds, metabolite training (eg., 40 rep sets on leg press), even simply doing more reps with a given weight (eg., if you bench 275 for 6, try to work up to doing 8 reps).

    goal is to make your workouts harder and harder slowly over time, yet without having to add more weight.

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