Stacks or no?

[ryguy199980]

no. especially for newer users. your not going to de-sensitize right away. and when you get to a point that you do begin to de-sensitze after running gear for several years its always best to rotate compounds in and out then it is to ramp up dosages.

30mg of Dbol is still 30mg of Dbol, it will still do its thing. some guys will only run Dbol for like 4 or 5 weeks is all (cause of hepatoxicity). but they end up pissing all their gains away when they come off. the reason I suggest the taper method is so that you can stay on the drug for a much longer period of time and help your body acclimate to the new gains and the water weight.. the more and longer your able to acclimate to the weight the better off you'll be able to hold onto it once you come off

If you run a proper pct(hcg,nolva,clomid ect) wont you keep most of your weight anyway? With the execution of losing your elevated blood volume and water weight?

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If you run a proper pct(hcg,nolva,clomid ect) wont you keep most of your weight anyway? With the execution of losing your elevated blood volume and water weight?

I'm speaking specifically to Dbol.. it is notorious for blowing guys up and then losing all your gains once you come off. The reason is that Dbol is a class 2 steroid that works apart from androgen receptor binding and works through other mechanisms of action, and storing a lot of glycogen and water is one way in which Dbol works to build muscle.. if you get off the drug too soon you will lose that ability. the longer you stay on the drug the more your able to build actual muscle and retain your gains.

and in regards to other drugs. it all depends on the drugs you used and your cycle. but generally you will lose gains when you come off, period. thats why guys like me, and a host of other guys serious about body building never come off and never pct

[ryguy199980]

I'm speaking specifically to Dbol.. it is notorious for blowing guys up and then losing all your gains once you come off. The reason is that Dbol is a class 2 steroid that works apart from androgen receptor binding and works through other mechanisms of action, and storing a lot of glycogen and water is one way in which Dbol works to build muscle.. if you get off the drug too soon you will lose that ability. the longer you stay on the drug the more your able to build actual muscle and retain your gains.

and in regards to other drugs. it all depends on the drugs you used and your cycle. but generally you will lose gains when you come off, period. thats why guys like me, and a host of other guys serious about body building never come off and never pct

But if you do cycle on and off the drugs have a more significant effect corrrct?

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But if you do cycle on and off the drugs have a more significant effect corrrct?

giving your body time off and a break can make the drugs work better when you do come back on..

however, if your advanced then there are ways around this. by rotating compounds every 6 weeks, by adding other growth factors like insulin, hgh, and igf, and by taking things that increase the amount of androgen receptors you have, you can continue to stay on AAS year round and make gains.

[ryguy199980]

giving your body time off and a break can make the drugs work better when you do come back on..

however, if your advanced then there are ways around this. by rotating compounds every 6 weeks, by adding other growth factors like insulin, hgh, and igf, and by taking things that increase the amount of androgen receptors you have, you can continue to stay on AAS year round and make gains.

Well I need to learn more about year round for sure

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Well I need to learn more about year round for sure

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whats your age and your stats, and how many cycles have you done thus far ? how many years training ?

[ryguy199980]

whats your age and your stats, and how many cycles have you done thus far ? how many years training ?

I'm 18 5"10 210 8% bf I've been on 3 cycles counting my cutting cycle I'm on rn I've been training for 13

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If you run a proper pct(hcg,nolva,clomid ect) wont you keep most of your weight anyway? With the execution of losing your elevated blood volume and water weight?

this is what Kevin Levrone looked like on steroids


this is what he looked like after doing pct and being off the drugs for awhile