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    there are 100s of posts in the anabolics section of this forum. yet somehow i'm the only person thats ever been asked to back up what i say with medical studies and personal blood work. lol. come on. you've never asked that of anyone else have you.

    am i the only person who has been asked by "staff" to back up everything i say with medical studies, personal blood work AND to send the staff a confirmation picture of myself holding a piece of paper with the date and the name of the staff on it.. if this is what i have to do to be here, then so should everyone else .

    you know what, unlike other pussies that are on this board, that are afraid to run gear as an experiment , I will go get blood work now, take 100+ winstrol per day, and get blood work again 5 weeks later just to prove my cortisol levels have pretty much totally shut down.
    theres tons of evidence out there confirming all of what i say. and i posted it simply to help you guys out!!
    but fine, i have to prove every little word i say for some reason . so privatemdlabs is getting my $ yet again. sure i was planning on running inectible Dbol my next coming blast, but guess its going to be oil based winny instead.
    oh yeah, and the confirmation pics of myself that the staff asked me to send, i'll post those up as well (being thats the new policy around here, in order to chat on this board they need confirmation pics, they need to see your personal blood work , and they need everything you say to be backed up by medical studies)
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    there are 100s of posts in the anabolics section of this forum. yet somehow i'm the only person thats ever been asked to back up what i say with medical studies and personal blood work. lol. come on. you've never asked that of anyone else have you.

    am i the only person who has been asked by "staff" to back up everything i say with medical studies, personal blood work AND to send the staff a confirmation picture of myself holding a piece of paper with the date and the name of the staff on it.. if this is what i have to do to be here, then so should everyone else .

    you know what, unlike other pussies that are on this board, that are afraid to run gear as an experiment , I will go get blood work now, take 100+ winstrol per day, and get blood work again 5 weeks later just to prove my cortisol levels have pretty much totally shut down.
    theres tons of evidence out there confirming all of what i say. and i posted it simply to help you guys out!!
    but fine, i have to prove every little word i say for some reason . so privatemdlabs is getting my $ yet again. sure i was planning on running inectible Dbol my next coming blast, but guess its going to be oil based winny instead.
    oh yeah, ans the confirmation pics of myself that the staff asked me to send, i'll post those up as well (being thats the new policy around here, in order to chat on this board they need confirmation pics, they need to see your personal blood work , and they need everything you say to be backed up by medical studies)
    I hate to burst anyone’s bubble, and I’ve said this on here before. We are not going to find peer reviewed double blind placebo RAndom control studies on non-medical use of AAS compounds. No university IRB board would ever approve such a study. Most of the none-medical use studies are retrospective and are typically based on surveys and self reporting by users. Sometimes there’s a case study here or there but nothing that’s on the order or what say Merck would do for say a male contraceptive study. Almost all out knowledge is anecdotal and second or third order evidence EXTRAPOLATED from legitimate medical studies when said compounds were developed for medical uses.

    GH cannot completely prove his point with high power empirical evidence. But neither can anyone else disprove him out of hand with evidence either.
    And Yes, the burden of proof lays on the claim holder so scrutiny is good. The best we can do is debate each other based on what evidence we do have and live with the consequences good or bad knowing there is never going to be a complete answer.

    Well not until China and Russia release thier State Sponsored doping data
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I hate to burst anyone’s bubble, and I’ve said this on here before. We are not going to find peer reviewed double blind placebo RAndom control studies on non-medical use of AAS compounds. No university IRB board would ever approve such a study. Most of the none-medical use studies are retrospective and are typically based on surveys and self reporting by users. Sometimes there’s a case study here or there but nothing that’s on the order or what say Merck would do for say a male contraceptive study. Almost all out knowledge is anecdotal and second or third order evidence EXTRAPOLATED from legitimate medical studies when said compounds were developed for medical uses.

    GH cannot completely prove his point with high power empirical evidence. But neither can anyone else disprove him out of hand with evidence either.
    And Yes, the burden of proof lays on the claim holder so scrutiny is good. The best we can do is debate each other based on what evidence we do have and live with the consequences good or bad knowing there is never going to be a complete answer.

    Well not until China and Russia release thier State Sponsored doping data
    The thread was written as an article and explicitly states a mechanism for some effects of the drug, and thus a source is required to verify the info. There is burden of evidence on that alone and blood tests won't prove it has this effect as described.

    Regarding the hierarchical order in which we evaluate the truthfulness of a belief, a single persons reported experience ranks lowest.

    But yes we're all left behind, now that Rodchenkov is under protective custody too... We're left with no option. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    there are 100s of posts in the anabolics section of this forum. yet somehow i'm the only person thats ever been asked to back up what i say with medical studies and personal blood work. lol. come on. you've never asked that of anyone else have you.

    am i the only person who has been asked by "staff" to back up everything i say with medical studies, personal blood work AND to send the staff a confirmation picture of myself holding a piece of paper with the date and the name of the staff on it.. if this is what i have to do to be here, then so should everyone else .

    you know what, unlike other pussies that are on this board, that are afraid to run gear as an experiment , I will go get blood work now, take 100+ winstrol per day, and get blood work again 5 weeks later just to prove my cortisol levels have pretty much totally shut down.
    theres tons of evidence out there confirming all of what i say. and i posted it simply to help you guys out!!
    but fine, i have to prove every little word i say for some reason . so privatemdlabs is getting my $ yet again. sure i was planning on running inectible Dbol my next coming blast, but guess its going to be oil based winny instead.
    oh yeah, and the confirmation pics of myself that the staff asked me to send, i'll post those up as well (being thats the new policy around here, in order to chat on this board they need confirmation pics, they need to see your personal blood work , and they need everything you say to be backed up by medical studies)
    Come on man dont over react, first nobody is talking about how you look, I couldnt care less. Second, on the subject you started about cortisol dont think about me as some staff, just a regular user discussing something you brought up. Its an interesting subject for me and I am not going to take your word on it without some sort of discussion, come on...

    And yes many here ask for medical studies and bw, so you want us to believe in what every gym bro spews, come on, get back on topic and dont be offended by everything. You would be surprised with many discussions we have had here over the years lol... check the TRT forum a few years back.

    If its only your experience, just say so, say that you dont have proof to back it up but its your opinion, its fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Come on man dont over react, first nobody is talking about how you look, I couldnt care less. Second, on the subject you started about cortisol dont think about me as some staff, just a regular user discussing something you brought up. Its an interesting subject for me and I am not going to take your word on it without some sort of discussion, .
    well i appreciate that and you wanting to discuss the subject at hand.. thats why i posted this thread to begin with. get guys to think about why exaclty Winstrol is such a great contest prep drug to begin with.

    I just find it funny how guys that have never ran winny once in their life, and have zero interest in ever running winny, yet want to jump in on this thread and post studies in an attempt to discredit me. thats their only motivation for posting.

    so i appreciate you BB for actually wanting to discuss an interesting subject for the sake of the subject itself, and not simply posting just for the sake of wanting to discredit or argue with me

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    well i appreciate that and you wanting to discuss the subject at hand.. thats why i posted this thread to begin with. get guys to think about why exaclty Winstrol is such a great contest prep drug to begin with.

    I just find it funny how guys that have never ran winny once in their life, and have zero interest in ever running winny, yet want to jump in on this thread and post studies in an attempt to discredit me. thats their only motivation for posting.

    so i appreciate you BB for actually wanting to discuss an interesting subject for the sake of the subject itself, and not simply posting just for the sake of wanting to discredit or argue with me
    I have ran winny, and love it, although nowadays I dont use orals, priorities shift you know how it is.

    But never actually tested cortisol while on cycle. In my opinion, and that why I asked about uric acid values, sometimes got joints issues while on it which I accredited it to uric crystals acummulation on joints. Maybe I need to ran it this summer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    I have ran winny, and love it, although nowadays I dont use orals, priorities shift you know how it is.

    But never actually tested cortisol while on cycle. In my opinion, and that why I asked about uric acid values, sometimes got joints issues while on it which I accredited it to uric crystals acummulation on joints. Maybe I need to ran it this summer...
    Gouty arthritis is a form of an inflammatory arthrotide. (at least in some medical circles it is) I could see something that inhibits inflammation being helpful in that instance. Really the Uric acid crystals are just irritating the tissues.
    Last edited by MuscleScience; 04-25-2018 at 11:06 AM. Reason: Idk how autocorrect got comedy out of medical circles
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    well i appreciate that and you wanting to discuss the subject at hand.. thats why i posted this thread to begin with. get guys to think about why exaclty Winstrol is such a great contest prep drug to begin with.

    I just find it funny how guys that have never ran winny once in their life, and have zero interest in ever running winny, yet want to jump in on this thread and post studies in an attempt to discredit me. thats their only motivation for posting.

    so i appreciate you BB for actually wanting to discuss an interesting subject for the sake of the subject itself, and not simply posting just for the sake of wanting to discredit or argue with me
    That's a personal attack and an assumption of my motives.

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