Question about second(ish) cycle

[Zanyon]

Greetings.

I was 18 when I did my first cycle (big mistake, I know) now I'm 20. I forgot to mention this beforehand. I have done my own research, and I do know that test should be my base, but my coach, thinks I am too young right now to inject testosterone, and that it would only harm me and suppress my natural testosterone levels if I start injecting it often. You might say that it is going to happen anyway with these two orals, but I'll restore it with proper PCT. He said that a winstrol-anavar cycle is a very mild oral cycle, even though toxic, with the proper liver support, lower dosages, and PCT, it should be ok as a "first" cycle just to see how my body reacts to it. Before you tell me that I am too young to get into steroids, maybe. I might be making a mistake here but I am really passionate about the gym, I've literally been working out since I was 16 years old, and I really want to see some "extra" gains.

So considering the above, could someone please answer my original questions? Dosage, brand, and effectiveness? I was kind of skeptical myself because I have done research, and I felt like I have a lot of BF and weight, thus they wouldn't "work" or show.

I appreciate the feedback, and taking your time to reply here, I really do.

[Vinnie214]

Greetings.

I was 18 when I did my first cycle (big mistake, I know) now I'm 20. I forgot to mention this beforehand. I have done my own research, and I do know that test should be my base, but my coach, thinks I am too young right now to inject testosterone, and that it would only harm me and suppress my natural testosterone levels if I start injecting it often. You might say that it is going to happen anyway with these two orals, but I'll restore it with proper PCT. He said that a winstrol-anavar cycle is a very mild oral cycle, even though toxic, with the proper liver support, lower dosages, and PCT, it should be ok as a "first" cycle just to see how my body reacts to it. Before you tell me that I am too young to get into steroids, maybe. I might be making a mistake here but I am really passionate about the gym, I've literally been working out since I was 16 years old, and I really want to see some "extra" gains.

So considering the above, could someone please answer my original questions? Dosage, brand, and effectiveness? I was kind of skeptical myself because I have done research, and I felt like I have a lot of BF and weight, thus they wouldn't "work" or show.

I appreciate the feedback, and taking your time to reply here, I really do.

You said it yourself. Any oral will also suppress you just like testosterone, and you will have low T during your oral course becuase you aren't injecting it.... That leads to all sorts of symptoms, and not to mention, less gains. If I were you, I'd just roll with test only, or test + oral of your choice. Or just don't do it at all, we're young, it's dangerous for our developing systems. With a proper PCT you can recover from test just like the oral. This coach of yours, has he ever run gear himself? Honestly doesn't sound like he knows what he's talking about at all, telling a 20 year old to do 2 orals only, not only will that fuck your liver, but you won't make much gains out of it since you will have low T the whole time.

[Zanyon]

You said it yourself. Any oral will also suppress you just like testosterone, and you will have low T during your oral course becuase you aren't injecting it.... That leads to all sorts of symptoms, and not to mention, less gains. If I were you, I'd just roll with test only, or test + oral of your choice. Or just don't do it at all, we're young, it's dangerous for our developing systems. With a proper PCT you can recover from test just like the oral. This coach of yours, has he ever run gear himself? Honestly doesn't sound like he knows what he's talking about at all, telling a 20 year old to do 2 orals only, not only will that fuck your liver, but you won't make much gains out of it since you will have low T the whole time.

The coach claims that I do not need it because I am young. At this point I don't know what to do, I'll probably have him bring me some test.

[Vinnie214]

The coach claims that I do not need it because I am young. At this point I don't know what to do, I'll probably have him bring me some test.

Well tbh you don't need orals either. Either don't do it at all, or use test but educate yourself first, I spent like 6 months researching and making my decision, it's a big decision to make at my age (and yours).

[cousinmuscles]

Well tbh you don't need orals either. Either don't do it at all, or use test but educate yourself first, I spent like 6 months researching and making my decision, it's a big decision to make at my age (and yours).

You did horrible research and came to horrible conclusions though.