Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie214 View Post
man drop the clen I used that shit when I was 17 like a fucking idiot and it gave me the hardest palps, like my heart literally felt like it was gonna jump out my chest, and guess what, I regained the fat after I stopped, LOL. Cut naturally, thermogenics are shit.
question. were you slamming fast food, eating mommy's mac n cheese dinners and 12 packs of Pepsi while on clen?

you outta refrain from giving any advice, because you haven't used or dieted or trained successful to date.

you can play loose and fast with your self, we really don't care, but you are in no position to advise any body kid.