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    Hello,

    A quick update.

    I did my second injection two days ago, on the opposite side of last time (I had two abscesses, so this time we injected in 2'30'' and massaged the area for a decent amount of time).

    I skipped the booster since I couldn't find an endo that agreed to it and as a result weeks 4-10 have been TRASH. Sometimes I was crying in my bed at night, with no reason. No energy, ZERO libido. I took bloods on my own to determine what was going on (I attached them at the end of this message).

    On week 11, I finally decided to inject and not wait till week 12. Nothing happened so far, but I'm positive.

    ||| Bloods - Week 8 after my first injection. |||

    LH: 1.0 (1-8) [before starting treatment, LH was 1.8]
    SHBG: 36 (13-71) [before starting treatment, SHBG was 38]
    Testosterone: 3.85 (2.7 - 10) [before starting treatment, TEST was 3.20]
    Free Testosterone: 74.6 (75-124) [before starting treatment, FREE TEST was 62]

    What do you guys think?

    Cheers
    M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markwilliams View Post
    Hello,

    A quick update.

    I did my second injection two days ago, on the opposite side of last time (I had two abscesses, so this time we injected in 2'30'' and massaged the area for a decent amount of time).

    I skipped the booster since I couldn't find an endo that agreed to it and as a result weeks 4-10 have been TRASH. Sometimes I was crying in my bed at night, with no reason. No energy, ZERO libido. I took bloods on my own to determine what was going on (I attached them at the end of this message).

    On week 11, I finally decided to inject and not wait till week 12. Nothing happened so far, but I'm positive.

    ||| Bloods - Week 8 after my first injection. |||

    LH: 1.0 (1-8) [before starting treatment, LH was 1.8]
    SHBG: 36 (13-71) [before starting treatment, SHBG was 38]
    Testosterone: 3.85 (2.7 - 10) [before starting treatment, TEST was 3.20]
    Free Testosterone: 74.6 (75-124) [before starting treatment, FREE TEST was 62]

    What do you guys think?

    Cheers
    M.
    What do I think? To be blunt, it's a shitty protocol. Now for the more constructive comments.

    Bizzarro is correct. While on a good and stable TRT protocol, your LH should be below detection at all times. This is a strong indicator that your T levels are too low for a good TRT protocol, but then again, you TT and FT tests show that anyway. You should be at least mid-range.

    SHBG is not a problem, so don't mess with that.

    As I previously comments, Nibido may eventually have its place in the TRT world, but they haven't worked out optimum protocols yet. I also believe that with TRT, a one size fits all protocol is never the correct approach. You should do frequent labs at the start and use the data to steer the boat until it is on a steady course and then you can just do maintenance labs and minor adjustments.

    Hope you get your boat on course.

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