Lean &Clean Gains Cycle. Fitness Modeling.

[tarmyg]

no bro , my problem was when i cut the ai.. i have a strogen rebound (and i know because a little bloat and acne appears) so i prefer keep the strogen level stable at 05mg monday/thursday.

The only time I have ever heard of "estrogen rebound" is in PCT and still to this day is seems like complete BS to me. Since you are not in PCT you can rule out this made up thing and ruling out something that is already an illusion should make it easy.

To quote Kelkel: "Forget estrogen rebound. Internet bullshit."

[Dazhy]

The only time I have ever heard of "estrogen rebound" is in PCT and still to this day is seems like complete BS to me. Since you are not in PCT you can rule out this made up thing and ruling out something that is already an illusion should make it easy.

To quote Kelkel: "Forget estrogen rebound. Internet bullshit."

maybe is a little paranoia for the tren but when i start to feel bad i start bloating too.. i add proviron right now with no adex at all.

Lets see how i go next weeks of the prep

[Chrisp83TRT]

I feel some people are more sensitive to sides the. Others when it comes to having higher test levels

[ScotchGuard02]

maybe is a little paranoia for the tren but when i start to feel bad i start bloating too.. i add proviron right now with no adex at all.

Lets see how i go next weeks of the prep

You're going to self medicate yourself into a corner. You're 22 and your proposed cycle is could be a disaster waiting to happen. Read a couple of posts before you start.

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-young***.html

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-steroids.html

[Couchlockd]

It's not rebound.

It's estrogen trying to stabilize again.

The acne comes from such and extreme high and low and high again.

I get my worst acne during pct.

[Dazhy]

It's not rebound.

It's estrogen trying to stabilize again.

The acne comes from such and extreme high and low and high again.

I get my worst acne during pct.

Yeah same! my first cycle was test 500mg weekly with 300 deca and the pct was horrible.

Need doxycycline at 200mg ed for 3 months and topic retin a to clean and have my baby skin again :P

hope it helps

[Chrisp83TRT]

Yeah same! my first cycle was test 500mg weekly with 300 deca and the pct was horrible.

Need doxycycline at 200mg ed for 3 months and topic retin a to clean and have my baby skin again :P

hope it helps

What’s pct

[Dazhy]

What’s pct

Typical clomid+nolva protocol dude.

But i have a rebound and very awful cystic acne appears in my chest/back

[Dazhy]

You're going to self medicate yourself into a corner. You're 22 and your proposed cycle is could be a disaster waiting to happen. Read a couple of posts before you start.

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-young***.html

https://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-...-steroids.html

the only difference between you and me is; i need much less time to recover being young and doing good pcts , than older guys who need trt like you probably.

[Windex]

the only difference between you and me is; i need much less time to recover being young and doing good pcts , than older guys who need trt like you probably.

You should treat the staff with more respect. They put a lot of time into this board to make it a place for people to get FREE support.

If you want to bring age into the debate some of the oldest members here have a physique that you wouldn't be able to accomplish in 2 lifetimes let alone one.

[Dazhy]

You should treat the staff with more respect. They put a lot of time into this board to make it a place for people to get FREE support.

If you want to bring age into the debate some of the oldest members here have a physique that you wouldn't be able to accomplish in 2 lifetimes let alone one.

Bro.. i have respect for everyone , but you should know i want the same for me. Being young isnt the same that being immature.
Maybe you are right and some olders members have an amazing phsyque , thats nice but my goal isnt be a monster mass freak .

Sorry but is better doing some cycles and pcts properly at my 20's than doing awful cycles , no pcts etc at 40.

My natty test comeback with clomid to the normal rangue in 4-6 weeks max.

[Chrisp83TRT]

Bro.. i have respect for everyone , but you should know i want the same for me. Being young isnt the same that being immature.
Maybe you are right and some olders members have an amazing phsyque , thats nice but my goal isnt be a monster mass freak .

Sorry but is better doing some cycles and pcts properly at my 20's than doing awful cycles , no pcts etc at 40.

My natty test comeback with clomid to the normal rangue in 4-6 weeks max.

Eventually it’s safer to go on TRT man... pct meds aren’t the best stuff for you. And eventually doing multiple cycles will take its toll on natural hormone production normal counts or not. Hope all goes well though man.

[cousinmuscles]

Bro.. i have respect for everyone , but you should know i want the same for me. Being young isnt the same that being immature.
Maybe you are right and some olders members have an amazing phsyque , thats nice but my goal isnt be a monster mass freak .

Sorry but is better doing some cycles and pcts properly at my 20's than doing awful cycles , no pcts etc at 40.

My natty test comeback with clomid to the normal rangue in 4-6 weeks max.

You phrased it in a way that evoked the response but I understand English most likely isn't your first language.

You are wrong however in that your natural test will recover easier when you are younger. Read the links ScotchGuard posted. At your age your HPTA has not developed fully. The chances of your natural test not coming back is higher than if you were over 25 years old and had a fully developed HPTA. Please, to spare yourself from coming off as very impolite, just read the links ScotchGuard posted and learn.

If your goal isn't being a mass freak or anything like that, then why take the health risks with AAS?

[Quester]

I just want to understand the science.

the only difference between you and me is; i need much less time to recover being young and doing good pcts , than older guys who need trt like you probably.

Please explain

[Chrisp83TRT]

The only time I have ever heard of "estrogen rebound" is in PCT and still to this day is seems like complete BS to me. Since you are not in PCT you can rule out this made up thing and ruling out something that is already an illusion should make it easy.

To quote Kelkel: "Forget estrogen rebound. Internet bullshit."

I’m only on TRT doses ( 150mg a week ) and if I take .125 Ana twice a week I get slightly bloated and get more acne. I usually have to bump it up to .25 twice a week to feel better