The Whole Truth About DNP!!!

[fiddlesticks]

Just watch tiger fitness's video on it.The man said you burn from the inside.Fack that shit.

Yea that's literally just bullshit he is spouting because it will attract the masses and thus give him "credibility" and make him look like some kind of hero, this is totally not reality at all.

In order for DNP to make your temperature around 105-107, the potentially lethal temp, you would need to take such a ridiculous amount that your metabolism would be over 10 times the normal rate, probably more. Assuming people using DNP can do math at say ... a 6th grade level, it's quite easy to understand, the very first research done on DNP indicates a 1 degree F increase in temperature results in a 120% in metabolism, if we know 100mg roughly boosts BMR by 11%ish then it's quite clear how insanely high the dose would need to be to reach 105, even if the dose were to "accumulate". Obviously the people initially exposed to DNP in those factories were getting it all over themselves and could easily achieve those lethal amounts.

The reality is taking a rational dose of DNP under reasonable weather conditions is less dangerous and much less uncomfortable than using clen. This drug could seriously be an incredible thing for society but unfortunately it's name has been tainted for whatever reason. Any drug that accelerates BMR does it by INCREASING BODY HEAT PRODUCTION!

[tarmyg]

Yea that's literally just bullshit he is spouting because it will attract the masses and thus give him "credibility" and make him look like some kind of hero, this is totally not reality at all.

In order for DNP to make your temperature around 105-107, the potentially lethal temp, you would need to take such a ridiculous amount that your metabolism would be over 10 times the normal rate, probably more. Assuming people using DNP can do math at say ... a 6th grade level, it's quite easy to understand, the very first research done on DNP indicates a 1 degree F increase in temperature results in a 120% in metabolism, if we know 100mg roughly boosts BMR by 11%ish then it's quite clear how insanely high the dose would need to be to reach 105, even if the dose were to "accumulate". Obviously the people initially exposed to DNP in those factories were getting it all over themselves and could easily achieve those lethal amounts.

The reality is taking a rational dose of DNP under reasonable weather conditions is less dangerous and much less uncomfortable than using clen. This drug could seriously be an incredible thing for society but unfortunately it's name has been tainted for whatever reason. Any drug that accelerates BMR does it by INCREASING BODY HEAT PRODUCTION!

Fiddlestick,

Any reference for the Increase in body temperature in regards to dnp and the same for the 100 boosting metabolism by that number? Interesting stuff!

[fiddlesticks]

Fiddlestick,

Any reference for the Increase in body temperature in regards to dnp and the same for the 100 boosting metabolism by that number? Interesting stuff!

the very first papers published on the substance quote that and it also mentions dinitrocresol, should be easy to find. the only problem with this is that naturally you're able to temporarily increase your BMR by over 40 times during very intense exercise so it complicates it a bit.

[tarmyg]

the very first papers published on the substance quote that and it also mentions dinitrocresol, should be easy to find. the only problem with this is that naturally you're able to temporarily increase your BMR by over 40 times during very intense exercise so it complicates it a bit.

I have read, pretty much all papers, around DNP because it's a bit of an obsession of mine. While the rise in temperature is not in question, your exact numbers are. If we could know the exact numbers in how the temperature would rise in a body in regards to the amount of DNP one takes the safety profiles would be significantly higher. Since this is not the case, as far as I can tell, using this poison becomes a bit troublesome. That said, I am here to learn so if you have any more information that you can more exactly reference (Not the, it's easy to find) I am more than happy to learn.

[fiddlesticks]

I have read, pretty much all papers, around DNP because it's a bit of an obsession of mine. While the rise in temperature is not in question, your exact numbers are. If we could know the exact numbers in how the temperature would rise in a body in regards to the amount of DNP one takes the safety profiles would be significantly higher. Since this is not the case, as far as I can tell, using this poison becomes a bit troublesome. That said, I am here to learn so if you have any more information that you can more exactly reference (Not the, it's easy to find) I am more than happy to learn.

Well, personally me and a few other people I know have very extensive DNP knowledge and personal experience and can say a few things.. I definitely am not defending it in every regard but the "poison" thing is just stupid and doesn't mean anything lol. Hot peppers are recognized as a far, far more toxic substance than DNP is to your body..

It really boils down to the ambient temperature and exercises performed. I believe clenbuterol increases your BMR far, far more than the average 10% quoted just due to the fact the first few hours (at least in my experience) the amount of heat production and respiration for me is greater than any dose of DNP I have used, If you are not rapidly hyperventilating you are not even close to a dangerous amount of DNP... It's best used on days you don't do anything vigorous. Multiple people report clen raises their temp much more than DNP.

I really dislike this idea that your body "doesn't understand" it has DNP in it. If you are using DNP you will be extremely lazy, fatigued and other measures the body takes to prevent a rise in temperature/energy expenditure. A mentally/physically healthy 240lb man taking 100-200mg of DNP a day is more likely to meet a talking frog than to die or even get close to dying "from" DNP. Pretty much within an hour of taking the DNP you should notice laziness.

However, with all those things being said even using the low dose has problems. For one, your body has a horrible rebound effect afterwards where you are cold, tired and just feel like crap all the time. Over time your body eliminates the substance much much faster as well..

If taking or doing things that increase energy expenditure had 0 rebound effects you could literally just do extreme isometric exercises all day and probably lose a pound of fat every few hours. This is why I think the high doses of DNP are very stupid, your body has a massive rebound effect. Using DNP for SUSTAINED fat loss really should not used more than 100-200mg a day and you should use other avenues to boost BMR as well (capsaicin, cold exposure etc.).

[Windex]

Yea that's literally just bullshit he is spouting because it will attract the masses and thus give him "credibility" and make him look like some kind of hero, this is totally not reality at all.

In order for DNP to make your temperature around 105-107, the potentially lethal temp, you would need to take such a ridiculous amount that your metabolism would be over 10 times the normal rate, probably more. Assuming people using DNP can do math at say ... a 6th grade level, it's quite easy to understand, the very first research done on DNP indicates a 1 degree F increase in temperature results in a 120% in metabolism, if we know 100mg roughly boosts BMR by 11%ish then it's quite clear how insanely high the dose would need to be to reach 105, even if the dose were to "accumulate". Obviously the people initially exposed to DNP in those factories were getting it all over themselves and could easily achieve those lethal amounts.

The reality is taking a rational dose of DNP under reasonable weather conditions is less dangerous and much less uncomfortable than using clen. This drug could seriously be an incredible thing for society but unfortunately it's name has been tainted for whatever reason. Any drug that accelerates BMR does it by INCREASING BODY HEAT PRODUCTION!

I disagree,

I was on a low dose of DNP and ended up in the hospital. Overnight I had a temperature hovering around 104 and required drugs to cool me down. Ontop of that, my heartrate was 135 and my respiratory rate was almost 40 (double whats considered "healthy). Don't talk the chemical down, especially if you don't have personal experience using it.

The whole broscience about DNP being safer in colder less humid climates is also a whole load of nonsense. Where I live 9 months of the year there is snow and NEGATIVE FORTY DEGREES is normal. Any further up north I may as well be living with the polar bears.

There is zero reason for anyone to ever use this pesticide. The reality is whenever you adjust the vitals and metabolism of any cellular organism there are always consequences.

Finally, DNP is not a drug, its a chemical/pesticide.

[fiddlesticks]

I disagree,

I was on a low dose of DNP and ended up in the hospital. Overnight I had a temperature hovering around 104 and required drugs to cool me down. Ontop of that, my heartrate was 135 and my respiratory rate was almost 40 (double whats considered "healthy). Don't talk the chemical down, especially if you don't have personal experience using it.

The whole broscience about DNP being safer in colder less humid climates is also a whole load of nonsense. Where I live 9 months of the year there is snow and NEGATIVE FORTY DEGREES is normal. Any further up north I may as well be living with the polar bears.

There is zero reason for anyone to ever use this pesticide. The reality is whenever you adjust the vitals and metabolism of any cellular organism there are always consequences.

Finally, DNP is not a drug, its a chemical/pesticide.

Literally every single drug and supplement are chemicals, that argument really shows the lack of understanding most people have lol.

[fiddlesticks]

I disagree,

I was on a low dose of DNP and ended up in the hospital. Overnight I had a temperature hovering around 104 and required drugs to cool me down. Ontop of that, my heartrate was 135 and my respiratory rate was almost 40 (double whats considered "healthy). Don't talk the chemical down, especially if you don't have personal experience using it.

The whole broscience about DNP being safer in colder less humid climates is also a whole load of nonsense. Where I live 9 months of the year there is snow and NEGATIVE FORTY DEGREES is normal. Any further up north I may as well be living with the polar bears.

There is zero reason for anyone to ever use this pesticide. The reality is whenever you adjust the vitals and metabolism of any cellular organism there are always consequences.

Finally, DNP is not a drug, its a chemical/pesticide.

im sorry you had that experience but,.. DNP did not cause that, a BPM of 135 is extremely high.. were you taking other drugs?

[Windex]

im sorry you had that experience but,.. DNP did not cause that, a BPM of 135 is extremely high.. were you taking other drugs?

Actually it did. I wasn't taking anything else and multiple tests showed DNP was the cause of all of my symptoms. Even Poison Control was partnered with the doctors for treating me. I'm confident between the Poison Control Board, Doctor, Toxicologist, and Internal Medicine Specialist, they know a bit more about DNP then you.

the difference between chemical and drug is that chemical is any specific chemical element or chemical compound while drug is (pharmacology) a substance used to treat an illness, relieve a symptom, or treatment of disease.

Have you ever taken DNP? If not, you have no business talking about it.

[fiddlesticks]

Actually it did. I wasn't taking anything else and multiple tests showed DNP was the cause of all of my symptoms. Even Poison Control was partnered with the doctors for treating me. I'm confident between the Poison Control Board, Doctor, Toxicologist, and Internal Medicine Specialist, they know a bit more about DNP then you.

the difference between chemical and drug is that chemical is any specific chemical element or chemical compound while drug is (pharmacology) a substance used to treat an illness, relieve a symptom, or treatment of disease.

Have you ever taken DNP? If not, you have no business talking about it.

Me and numerous other people I associate with use it very frequently. Unless you have some sort of heart problem your body will have no issue at all dissipating the heat from low doses of dnp... If someone tells you 200mg of DNP will make your heartrate 135 I'm sorry they have no idea what they are saying, doesn't matter what "certification they have.

[Chrisp83TRT]

Fidd , I don’t understand why you are praising this CHEMICAL...it’s not something anyone should take lightly or at all.
You compare drinking water to taking dnp is a huge stretch.
Water is actually something you NEED and has to be consumed all day every day for your body to function.
DNP is something you take to alter your body to burn fat at an abnormal rate and is and can be deadly.
If you need to drop body fat so fast for something, then maybe your diet needs to be seriously thought through first because for anyone to have to take it often obviously isn’t doing something right in the nutrition department.

[fiddlesticks]

Fidd , I don’t understand why you are praising this CHEMICAL...it’s not something anyone should take lightly or at all.
You compare drinking water to taking dnp is a huge stretch.
Water is actually something you NEED and has to be consumed all day every day for your body to function.
DNP is something you take to alter your body to burn fat at an abnormal rate and is and can be deadly.
If you need to drop body fat so fast for something, then maybe your diet needs to be seriously thought through first because for anyone to have to take it often obviously isn’t doing something right in the nutrition department.

I definitely never said to slack on diet/training and just use drugs, that's not my motto at all, the drugs are the finishing touch. In fact on DNP the minimum amount before going catabolic is what I suggest to eat.. so very little.

It's not an abnormal rate at all, I've seen some truly crazy people sit in bath tubs of ice all day and they burn upwards of 1000 calories an hour just naturally.

I talked about water because everything has it's deadly point. DNP really isn't as deadly as people say.. clen/ephedrine/caffeine all do the same thing, burn calories through heat generation. IME clen actually burns fat much faster than low doses of DNP's rate but builds a tolerance very fast, I'm talking like 2-3 hours and then the drug just stops working almost entirely, at least from what I've seen.

I've gotten very good results using 50-100mg a day at 260ish lbs relatively lean, even 200 is not needed in most of the cases imo. People should lower the common doses to 50, 100,200 and 300 not 200,400,600.

There are other benefits of this substance totally outside of it's weight reducing properties. DNP reduces ROS formation which is absolutely incredible and potentially can increase lifespan, lots of long-lived animals like birds rely on this technique for slowing down aging.

Using a low dose of DNP while leaning down is similar to using clen without the tolerance or crazy anxiety side effects basically, there really isnt a difference.