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    Why not just eat at a clean surplus and train like a beast without AAS ?
    The age you’re at right now is such a good time to get those gains.
    My opinion, just wait a few years dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    Why not just eat at a clean surplus and train like a beast without AAS ?
    The age you’re at right now is such a good time to get those gains.
    My opinion, just wait a few years dude.
    Agree with Chris. Lots of natural potential, 171 lbs is light. You may think your diet is good but truthfully there is a lot of room for improvement. Your overall food protocol is good for the average young adult wanting to be healthy. From a bodybuilding and fitness perspective, it's mediocre at best.

    - Having a snack that's also a preworkout meal doesn't make sense
    - Looks like 40-45% of your protein is coming from powders
    - breakfast is poor
    - doesn't appear to be a meal before bed unless its snack#2

    How do you know you don't need calcium? Do you have bloodwork? If you don't need calcium supplementation why are you taking it ?

    Your water intake is a huge range - why isn't it consistent or have a smaller delta ? Your maximum is literally double your minimum.


    Mom cooking dinner and adult in control of his body are often on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    Last edited by Windex; 07-01-2018 at 06:15 PM.

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    Too young buddy.

    That diet seems more like a girl's diet, you don't grow with just belvita carbs. How much is that 2000cals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Agree with Chris. Lots of natural potential, 171 lbs is light. You may think your diet is good but truthfully there is a lot of room for improvement. Your overall food protocol is good for the average young adult wanting to be healthy. From a bodybuilding and fitness perspective, it's mediocre at best.

    - Having a snack that's also a preworkout meal doesn't make sense
    - Looks like 40-45% of your protein is coming from powders
    - breakfast is poor
    - doesn't appear to be a meal before bed unless its snack#2

    How do you know you don't need calcium? Do you have bloodwork? If you don't need calcium supplementation why are you taking it ?

    Your water intake is a huge range - why isn't it consistent or have a smaller delta ? Your maximum is literally double your minimum.
    Not to mention the portions are miniscule. Either its a protein shake with some oil and a sprinkle of oats and a fruit. Or one (only one lol) chicken breast with some salad. Or a handful of nuts.

    A normal meal is more like 8+ ounces of chicken, 4-6 ounces of brown rice/quinoa/bulgur (weighed uncooked), some veggies and some healthy fats. A variation would be 6 ounces meat, 4-6 ounces grain, 3-4 ounces beans/legumes, some healthy fats... your calories go up by 500+ per meal. 3 of these kind of meals per day minimum. Make the breakfast something for a man, not your 90 year old grandma. Some eggs, a cup of oatmeal and a fruit in the oats. So now you have 4 meals. Depending on your calories so far add one or two more meals where you can supplement with whey, but make it more meaningful, you can make some homemade protein bars with peanut butter, or whey and a sandwitch, or whey and fruit and nuts et.c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cousinmuscles View Post
    Not to mention the portions are miniscule. Either its a protein shake with some oil and a sprinkle of oats and a fruit. Or one (only one lol) chicken breast with some salad. Or a handful of nuts.

    A normal meal is more like 8+ ounces of chicken, 4-6 ounces of brown rice/quinoa/bulgur (weighed uncooked), some veggies and some healthy fats. A variation would be 6 ounces meat, 4-6 ounces grain, 3-4 ounces beans/legumes, some healthy fats... your calories go up by 500+ per meal. 3 of these kind of meals per day minimum. Make the breakfast something for a man, not your 90 year old grandma. Some eggs, a cup of oatmeal and a fruit in the oats. So now you have 4 meals. Depending on your calories so far add one or two more meals where you can supplement with whey, but make it more meaningful, you can make some homemade protein bars with peanut butter, or whey and a sandwitch, or whey and fruit and nuts et.c.
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Agree with Chris. Lots of natural potential, 171 lbs is light. You may think your diet is good but truthfully there is a lot of room for improvement. Your overall food protocol is good for the average young adult wanting to be healthy. From a bodybuilding and fitness perspective, it's mediocre at best.

    - Having a snack that's also a preworkout meal doesn't make sense
    - Looks like 40-45% of your protein is coming from powders
    - breakfast is poor
    - doesn't appear to be a meal before bed unless its snack#2

    How do you know you don't need calcium? Do you have bloodwork? If you don't need calcium supplementation why are you taking it ?

    Your water intake is a huge range - why isn't it consistent or have a smaller delta ? Your maximum is literally double your minimum.


    Mom cooking dinner and adult in control of his body are often on opposite ends of the spectrum.
    The pre-workout is just counted as a "meal", it's food. I called it a snack because it's a meal that doesn't contain as many calories as the other meals in my day. Carbing up before a workout, hence eating my snack does make sense to me and you won't make me doubt that.

    You are correct on the 40-45% of the protein intake is coming from powders. 100% Hydrolyzed Whey Protein Isolate is a great source of protein, not only it is easily digested but whey protein in general is one of the best protein sources in terms of bio availability. Plus its a great convenience factor along with it being affordable in my circumstance.

    Breakfast may be poor from your perspective if you're one of the people who value breakfast. If you could substantiate that having a "rich" or "non-poor" breakfast could provide me with my goal or a "good physique" please do so. From what it looks like, your opinion on breakfast is very biased and I can easily allocate the majority of my calories to the latter portion of my day to decrease the time-window of when I'll be eating for that day. I didn't tell you when I wake up, nor the times when I eat so you've based many things off assumptions instead of asking for information. This shows a lack of poor representation for a community that is here to help. As far as I'm concerned I can't even label this constructive criticism because of how overly biased it is, so it's not helpful, but rather bashing.

    You are correct! Snack #2 is about 1-2 hours before bed

    I count my calories on MyFitnessPal (Thank you for asking, I really appreciate this), so I can see that those two cups of almond milk actually have about 80-90% of what I need in the day but I am performing a natural cut at the moment and in order to protect my bones in the caloric deficit that I am in, I am taking that precaution.

    Sorry if I miscommunicated on the water intake. It's not extremely calculated but like I said, it can be higher depending on the intensity of my workout and if I decide to include a long duration of cardio, I will need more, plus drinking to thirst.

    Sorry to disappoint your spectrum, I'm not trying to become Mr. O here, like I said I eat healthy I'm not trying to compete or get to a freakish physique. I'm not going to pretend to be perfect on the forums to impress you. If one night I decide to eat her cooking (which I can gauge whether it's healthy enough to work with) I will do so. I'm sure you guys aren't perfect yourselves either so don't pretend because it's not even at the very least convincing.

    Yes from a bodybuilder perspective who's goal is to compete, it is certainly mediocre. I am not angry with you, I can respect your values that carry your opinion but unless you can refute my opinion with facts, it'll fail to move me. Let's take a minute to reflect. No one asked me what my goal was. Everyone assumed that I'm trying to bulk AT THE MOMENT, when I'm at the end of my cut. I'm simply seeking out information, gauging my options, and learning more. Ultimately I will make my decision later but I am not rushing it.

    Regardless, I will assume that you meant what you said with good intentions, I will take the good out of it, and go my way. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    Why not just eat at a clean surplus and train like a beast without AAS ?
    The age you’re at right now is such a good time to get those gains.
    My opinion, just wait a few years dude.
    Chris I really want to take a moment to point out how you've been the only one who managed to respond with a decent level of respect and not assume things about my diet and my training regimen. Thank you for your input and your opinion, you're probably right. If there's anyone in this comment section who could convince me to avoid the AAS path it'd someone who'd respond like you did. Again thank you.

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