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    27, 5'4, 160lbs, ~12% bf, cutting rn. This is a bulking cycle obviously. Haven't got a detailed meal plan done yet coz I won't be running the cycle till several months later. But I'll be eating 500-800 cal above my TDEE depending on my stats when I start.

    About tren a, my concern is my body didn't react well to short esters before. Got frequent flu-like symptoms whenever I ran short esters.

    So yea maybe I should start with 300 test c and 300 tren for starters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    What is your age, height, weight, body fat?

    Goals for cycle ?

    Use caber, don't keep it just in case.

    Drop the dbol.

    Tren Ace for first time. If sides are problematic you want it out of your system asap.

    What's your nutrition program going to look like based on your goals? can you give complete meal breakdown.

    You don't need that much test with 400mg of Tren. Even a 300/300 split would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lirenguoke View Post
    27, 5'4, 160lbs, ~12% bf, cutting rn. This is a bulking cycle obviously. Haven't got a detailed meal plan done yet coz I won't be running the cycle till several months later. But I'll be eating 500-800 cal above my TDEE depending on my stats when I start.

    About tren a, my concern is my body didn't react well to short esters before. Got frequent flu-like symptoms whenever I ran short esters.

    So yea maybe I should start with 300 test c and 300 tren for starters.
    What is your current meal plan?

    If you are side sensitive then that is more reason to not use Tren E. Esters really only affect release time more than anything. You may have had a bad reaction depending on the oils used. Some people do not handle Ethyl Oleate which might have been used. Could have also been the lab. Wouldn't really attribute the ester to cause flu.

    Remember that Tren has 5x the anabolic and androgenic rating of Test. 300mg of Tren is "equivalent" to 1500mg of Test. Even 200mg of Tren and 300mg of Test can produce great results provided training and nutrition are in check.

    Side effects are going to be individualized so I wouldn't overly concern yourself with what other people experience. Also a common mistake people make if they see no side effects they assume their gear is bunk or underdosed. Personally speaking, I've never gotten insomnia, sweats, or tren cough. I do however get some intense dreams/nightmares "shrug".
    Last edited by Windex; 07-13-2018 at 09:55 AM.

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    Meal plan looks like this
    Meal 1 - 9 oz - Egg whites, 7.5 oz - Potato, 1.5 oz - Almonds, 3/4 cup - Carrots
    Workout
    Meal 2 - 4 oz - Pork, 7.5 oz - Potato, 3/4 cup - Bell Peppers
    Meal 3 - 2.5 oz - Salmon, 4.5 oz - Sweet Potato, 1.5 oz - Almonds, 3/4 cup - Carrots
    Meal 4 - 2.5 oz - Salmon, 1 oz - Jasmine Rice, 1.5 oz - Peanuts, 3/4 cup - Mushrooms
    Meal 5 - 4 oz - Pork, 1 oz - Olive Oil, 3/4 cup - Bell Peppers
    Meal 6 - 4 oz - Chicken, 1.5 oz - Almonds, 3/4 cup - Lettuce

    So you think I wouldn't need as much test as before? I usually do 500mg/wk of test e. But I guess tren would make up for that 200mg difference of test?

    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    What is your current meal plan?

    If you are side sensitive then that is more reason to not use Tren E. Esters really only affect release time more than anything. You may have had a bad reaction depending on the oils used. Some people do not handle Ethyl Oleate which might have been used. Could have also been the lab. Wouldn't really attribute the ester to cause flu.

    Remember that Tren has 5x the anabolic and androgenic rating of Test. 300mg of Tren is "equivalent" to 1500mg of Test. Even 200mg of Tren and 300mg of Test can produce great results provided training and nutrition are in check.

    Side effects are going to be individualized so I wouldn't overly concern yourself with what other people experience. Also a common mistake people make if they see no side effects they assume their gear is bunk or underdosed. Personally speaking, I've never gotten insomnia, sweats, or tren cough. I do however get some intense dreams/nightmares "shrug".

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