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    Quote Originally Posted by Doublewide1 View Post
    Thanks for help. Right now I’m going to cycle off but my test levels are low. Not low enough for insurance to pay but enough that a beautiful woman can lay on my bed and I would, obviously, take action but it’s low. My wife is hot (wife #2. Had to go way younger in that position) and I have to really try to get motivated to have sex with her. I do it but have to constantly work on it.

    I see my main cardiologist on Monday so questions will be answered. I fully intend to do self TRT beginning closer to the end of the year.

    300 mgs Prop w/ 300mgs of NPP a week is what I was doing. I have literally been wearing my wife out since starting. So we went from having relations about once a week to almost everyday. And I’m kicking ass. No limits. What’s funny is she does not know I’m doing this. She has no idea what hit her. She is like what the hell happened to him.

    I’m not going back to where I was. I’ll research it and figure out my best doseage. Will switch to Enanthate. Once a week shots are sounding nice right now.

    I 100% believe that these steroids had zero to do with what happened to me.
    This is very foolish - do not try to pretend you are an Endo or have a PhD in Andrology. There are 101 problems that can cause low test, 100 of which are correctable without the need of a lifelong commitment of steroids.

    Let's be realistic and say you live to 70 years old. You self diagnose TRT and in 12 months you have the same problem. You get tests done, see a doctor/specialist/etc and discover it was actually B, C, or D causing low test instead of A that easily fixed via X, Y, or Z. Now you are stuck on TRT, and are going to spend $1000/year (approx) for the next 22 years on something you didn't actually need.


    Would you rather stab yourself with a needle, twice a week, every week, for the rest of your life, or have 22 THOUSAND dollars to spend on whatever you want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    This is very foolish - do not try to pretend you are an Endo or have a PhD in Andrology. There are 101 problems that can cause low test, 100 of which are correctable without the need of a lifelong commitment of steroids.

    Let's be realistic and say you live to 70 years old. You self diagnose TRT and in 12 months you have the same problem. You get tests done, see a doctor/specialist/etc and discover it was actually B, C, or D causing low test instead of A that easily fixed via X, Y, or Z. Now you are stuck on TRT, and are going to spend $1000/year (approx) for the next 22 years on something you didn't actually need.


    Would you rather stab yourself with a needle, twice a week, every week, for the rest of your life, or have 22 THOUSAND dollars to spend on whatever you want?

    $1000 a year? The cheapest TRT clinic in my area is $2400 / year.

    It sounds like you are talking about a 22 year old guy, not a 48 year old man. At 48, if he did steroids in the past, guaranteed his natural levels are low. I'm 32 and mine were 471 when I checked and I never did steroids.

    Also, while I don't pin (yet), I don't think it would take longer than 2 minutes to do so. Doesn't seem so bad, rather than live with low-t. I don't think there is anything that will put you in the "upper range" at 48. A few minutes a week is probably worth feeling great.

    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    $1000 a year? The cheapest TRT clinic in my area is $2400 / year.

    It sounds like you are talking about a 22 year old guy, not a 48 year old man. At 48, if he did steroids in the past, guaranteed his natural levels are low. I'm 32 and mine were 471 when I checked and I never did steroids.

    Also, while I don't pin (yet), I don't think it would take longer than 2 minutes to do so. Doesn't seem so bad, rather than live with low-t. I don't think there is anything that will put you in the "upper range" at 48. A few minutes a week is probably worth feeling great.

    Just my opinion.
    You missed the entire point of my post. TRT should be the last resort, not the first choice.

    Also, TRT is very tedious beyond the actual injections. You have to manage your refills, call the pharmacy, make a trip there, exchange your sharps (needle) containerwhen full , buy needles, syringes, alcohol wipes, bloodwork, the list goes on. And if you want to travel to another country, or do a Europe tour (as an example) for a month it's an absolute nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    You missed the entire point of my post. TRT should be the last resort, not the first choice.

    Also, TRT is very tedious beyond the actual injections. You have to manage your refills, call the pharmacy, make a trip there, exchange your sharps (needle) containerwhen full , buy needles, syringes, alcohol wipes, bloodwork, the list goes on. And if you want to travel to another country, or do a Europe tour (as an example) for a month it's an absolute nightmare.
    Not sure I missed the point entirely... Yes, TRT should be the last resort, but my point is that if he cycled in the past, and is 48, he will more than likely need to be on TRT anyway.

    Not sure all that is involved in TRT is that tedious. Grocery shopping and cooking seems A LOT more tedious (lol). Shaving everyday seems tedious. Taking a shower and getting dressed is tedious. Pinning a couple of times a week seems a lot less tedious than all of these things, to me at least.

    About traveling, yeah, I see how that can be somewhat tedious. Although, I'm sure it's like anything else you have to do consistently. Maybe you might have to buy some syringes once you get there, but after that, I don't see how it's that big of a deal.

    Probably more than anything, it's the thought that you have to do it rather than choose to. You can skip on shaving or even showering if you really wanted to and you'd be ok, but I guess if you do that with TRT you won't be feeling so great.

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