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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    Supplements (Hormone Related)
    Zinc Picolinate (100 mg/day) & Copper 4mcg/day
    D3 (4000 IU/day)
    25 mg DHEA
    50 mg Pregnenolone
    6 mg Boron (3mg AM&PM)


    Saw Palmetto & Pygeum
    Total Daily dose of Saw Extract = 884 mg Saw Extract
    Total daily Pygeum dose = 400 mg X 13% Phytosterols = 52 mg Pygeum Extract


    Can you explain the purpose of each of these ? I am on Vitamin D3 myself at 3666IU per day. Trying to learn about supplements and TRT but it's a sea of information and I find myself overwhelmed easily.

    Also, why the winny? Do you get any drying of the joints or any general side effects at such a small dose?
    Zinc Picolinate (100 mg/day) & Copper 4mcg/day
    Zinc is supposed to be a natural E suppressor. My original TRT doc, who is one of the big names in the business, originally got me started on this. He recommends 200 mg/day, but I feel that is too high. Zinc is also involved with hundreds of metabolic processes in the body, many related to hormone production, so it is a good idea to supplement. You MUST balance the zinc with copper, about 2 mcg copper per 50 mg zinc.


    D3 (4000 IU/day)
    D3 helps to suppress SHBG production. I have genetically high SHBG which sucks up my T and drives down my Free T, which is more important than Total T. I have found through multiple labs that 4,000 IU per day (2,000 AM & 2,000 PM) is about right for me to keep it in a healthy range.

    25 mg DHEA
    50 mg Pregnenolone
    Both DHEA and Pregnenolone are precursors to a large number of steroid hormones. Both hormones are dependent on LH to stimulate production. Again, my original TRT doc got me started on this. When you are on TRT, LH production goes down to zero, so these hormones tend to dry up. There are also other benefits to health (particularly in the brain) for having normal levels of these hormones. If you are supplementing with HCG, then there is less of a need to supplement with these hormones, but my TRT doc still recommends it.


    6 mg Boron (3mg AM&PM)
    Boron is supposed to suppress SHBG, but I have not found it to be particularly effective. I take it anyway because it is cheap.


    I take very small doses of stanozolole (generic Winstrol) because it is EXTREMLY effective at suppressing SHBG production. Without it, my SHBG levels are near 100 nmol/L. This high level makes it difficult to keep free T within a healthy range without pushing Total T over 1500, which is not sustainable. No, I do not have any joint issues with it. Keep in mind that I am only taking 5 mg per day. By comparison, bodybuilders take 40 to 100 mg per day for anabolic effects. At 5 mg per day, I have no delusions of ever getting "big", although I've found that keeping Free T at the upper end of the normal range does have its benefits in the gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youthful55guy View Post
    Zinc Picolinate (100 mg/day) & Copper 4mcg/day
    Zinc is supposed to be a natural E suppressor. My original TRT doc, who is one of the big names in the business, originally got me started on this. He recommends 200 mg/day, but I feel that is too high. Zinc is also involved with hundreds of metabolic processes in the body, many related to hormone production, so it is a good idea to supplement. You MUST balance the zinc with copper, about 2 mcg copper per 50 mg zinc.


    D3 (4000 IU/day)
    D3 helps to suppress SHBG production. I have genetically high SHBG which sucks up my T and drives down my Free T, which is more important than Total T. I have found through multiple labs that 4,000 IU per day (2,000 AM & 2,000 PM) is about right for me to keep it in a healthy range.

    25 mg DHEA
    50 mg Pregnenolone
    Both DHEA and Pregnenolone are precursors to a large number of steroid hormones. Both hormones are dependent on LH to stimulate production. Again, my original TRT doc got me started on this. When you are on TRT, LH production goes down to zero, so these hormones tend to dry up. There are also other benefits to health (particularly in the brain) for having normal levels of these hormones. If you are supplementing with HCG, then there is less of a need to supplement with these hormones, but my TRT doc still recommends it.


    6 mg Boron (3mg AM&PM)
    Boron is supposed to suppress SHBG, but I have not found it to be particularly effective. I take it anyway because it is cheap.


    I take very small doses of stanozolole (generic Winstrol) because it is EXTREMLY effective at suppressing SHBG production. Without it, my SHBG levels are near 100 nmol/L. This high level makes it difficult to keep free T within a healthy range without pushing Total T over 1500, which is not sustainable. No, I do not have any joint issues with it. Keep in mind that I am only taking 5 mg per day. By comparison, bodybuilders take 40 to 100 mg per day for anabolic effects. At 5 mg per day, I have no delusions of ever getting "big", although I've found that keeping Free T at the upper end of the normal range does have its benefits in the gym.
    Noted and thanks for info.

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