EQ PCT Questions

[Windex]

I will give it a shot. Some of those diet changes will not be feasible, but I can prob substitute bagels and bread for potatos and the like.

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What part is not feasible? You have to be creative if you want to be successful you can't use your job as an excuse. You could even do baking and make your own protein bars, protein cookies, etc.

Here are the problems with protein powder and gainer supplements :

- There is no quality control, the only thing the companies are legally required to do is write the ingredients on the label.

- You have no way to verify what the label says is correct. Not too long ago Quest got nailed for falsifying their nutritional information on their bars. If one of the biggest supplement companies in the world is doing it, their all doing it.

- Ingrefients are legally written in order of predominance. That means the ingredient listed first represents the largest % of the nutritional information. The easiest example to see this as a problem is to look at Casein Protein Powders. Most of the time, casein is listed as the 3rd or 4th ingredient and typically whey concentrate is listed first because that's the cheapest form of milk protein and casein the most expensive. Sometimes soy protein is listed first at which point your drinking estrogen.

The companies are about business, they don't care about your health. for all we know it's 99% bottom of the barrel whey concentrate with 1% other protein and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Rich Piana in one of his last interviews talked about his supplement company and stated, he had to make his supplement for less than $4 to be profitable. What kind of quality do you think you are getting for $4?

Nutrition is the end all be all of bodybuilding. That's why you see guys running grams of gear drinking protein shakes like Koolaid with shit bodies and then you have monsters like dorian yates who ran a fraction of the gear people use today.

If you can't figure out a way to have 90%-95% of your protein intake with real food instead of powder you simply will not be successful with steroids or bodybuilding in general. Our diet section has hundreds of recipes. Maximum of 1 scoop of protein for your whole day.

[HoldMyBeer]

What part is not feasible? You have to be creative if you want to be successful you can't use your job as an excuse. You could even do baking and make your own protein bars, protein cookies, etc.

Here are the problems with protein powder and gainer supplements :

- There is no quality control, the only thing the companies are legally required to do is write the ingredients on the label.

- You have no way to verify what the label says is correct. Not too long ago Quest got nailed for falsifying their nutritional information on their bars. If one of the biggest supplement companies in the world is doing it, their all doing it.

- Ingrefients are legally written in order of predominance. That means the ingredient listed first represents the largest % of the nutritional information. The easiest example to see this as a problem is to look at Casein Protein Powders. Most of the time, casein is listed as the 3rd or 4th ingredient and typically whey concentrate is listed first because that's the cheapest form of milk protein and casein the most expensive. Sometimes soy protein is listed first at which point your drinking estrogen.

The companies are about business, they don't care about your health. for all we know it's 99% bottom of the barrel whey concentrate with 1% other protein and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

Rich Piana in one of his last interviews talked about his supplement company and stated, he had to make his supplement for less than $4 to be profitable. What kind of quality do you think you are getting for $4?

Nutrition is the end all be all of bodybuilding. That's why you see guys running grams of gear drinking protein shakes like Koolaid with shit bodies and then you have monsters like dorian yates who ran a fraction of the gear people use today.

If you can't figure out a way to have 90%-95% of your protein intake with real food instead of powder you simply will not be successful with steroids or bodybuilding in general. Our diet section has hundreds of recipes. Maximum of 1 scoop of protein for your whole day.

Can we get some kool-aid flavored protein shakes though?

[ROME-IS-BURNING]

Windex

It is laziness on my part yes, the sheer convenience of just being able to slam a shake down is unrivalled. I could cut out the wake up shake, thebefore bed with milk is staying for the caesin effect.

Mid day shake could also be replaced with some more chicken or flank steak whatever... Or I'll check the recipe section out like you suggested out depending on if my body can handle the extra real food load. I'm telling you bro I'm not taking a shit in a train toilet, I don't care what Yates would say about it.

Beer

That's with a cardio increase though. I was saying I cut the 400 from my diet not total number cut via diet and exercise.

And I'm sure there is a kool-aid or fruit punch flavor out there already. For creatine there for sure is.

[Windex]

Windex

It is laziness on my part yes, the sheer convenience of just being able to slam a shake down is unrivalled. I could cut out the wake up shake, thebefore bed with milk is staying for the caesin effect.

Mid day shake could also be replaced with some more chicken or flank steak whatever... Or I'll check the recipe section out like you suggested out depending on if my body can handle the extra real food load. I'm telling you bro I'm not taking a shit in a train toilet, I don't care what Yates would say about it.

Beer

That's with a cardio increase though. I was saying I cut the 400 from my diet not total number cut via diet and exercise.

And I'm sure there is a kool-aid or fruit punch flavor out there already. For creatine there for sure is.

If you are lazy and don't have the bare minimum mental discipline to meal prep and bulk cook or work around your schedule to eat real food then there is no purpose whatsoever to be considering steroids at any point, now or in the future.

You are the perfect victim for the supplement companies which is why it's a billion dollar industry. The John Smith looking for a shortcut that doesn't recognize it's a waste of money and time. Figure out solutions, not excuses.


Also when you are drinking so many calories/day and you stop gaining weight, you won't be able to eat more because you haven't conditioned your digestion or body to consume more food, so you're creating a virtual ceiling just from the fluids alone. Then, when you go to cut weight you are going to be starving 24/7 because fluids have no satiety.

[HoldMyBeer]

If you are lazy and don't have the bare minimum mental discipline to meal prep and bulk cook or work around your schedule to eat real food then there is no purpose whatsoever to be considering steroids at any point, now or in the future.

You are the perfect victim for the supplement companies which is why it's a billion dollar industry. The John Smith looking for a shortcut that doesn't recognize it's a waste of money and time. Figure out solutions, not excuses.


Also when you are drinking so many calories/day and you stop gaining weight, you won't be able to eat more because you haven't conditioned your digestion or body to consume more food, so you're creating a virtual ceiling just from the fluids alone. Then, when you go to cut weight you are going to be starving 24/7 because fluids have no satiety.

Give him an example Win, post a normal day of eating for you
That's what helped me get started. Saw someones daily log, substituted, experimented, learned. See what you can change without changing the macros, read about it when you have questions, post on forums, etc. It is less intimidating when you have a base to start from.

[Windex]

Give him an example Win, post a normal day of eating for you
That's what helped me get started. Saw someones daily log, substituted, experimented, learned. See what you can change without changing the macros, read about it when you have questions, post on forums, etc. It is less intimidating when you have a base to start from.

Give him an example Win, post a normal day of eating for you
That's what helped me get started. Saw someones daily log, substituted, experimented, learned. See what you can change without changing the macros, read about it when you have questions, post on forums, etc. It is less intimidating when you have a base to start from.

60g Oats
1 Cup Egg Whites
1 Whole egg

1 Hour training

350g Greek yogurt (no fat, no sugar added)
100g mixed berries (black, straw, blue, rasp)

200g Chicken
1/2 TBSP olive oil
kale + spinach + collared greens

200g Chicken
1/3 cup white rice
Mixed peppers

45 min training

200g chicken
1/3cup white rice
mixed peppers

3 whole eggs
1/2 tbsp olive oil
asparagus + broccoli

1 hour training

1/2 tbsp almond butter
cucumber
Chicken Livers or Steak (top sirloin / ribeyee), 45-50g of protein worth. good choice Varies based $$$


Add homemade quacamole twice a week (leg training days) to 2 chicken meals for added fat+cals.

Sunday only day off. Extra veg and 1 chicken+rice meal removed. Reduced oats to 40g.

Approx 1000mg of Sodium after each workout. 700mL water with each meal. 1L water with each training session. 1L of water to start the day. Roughly 2 gallons of water per day

[ROME-IS-BURNING]

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Also when you are drinking so many calories/day and you stop gaining weight, you won't be able to eat more because you haven't conditioned your digestion or body to consume more food, so you're creating a virtual ceiling just from the fluids alone. Then, when you go to cut weight you are going to be starving 24/7 because fluids have no satiety."

I see what you are saying, but when I have not had shakes for whatever reason I always am extremely hungry and eat excessively more to make up for it. My body doesn't shut down or not handle the extra food load.

That is an impressive diet and training schedule, and I will try and help tailor mine off of that like the other gentleman (Beer) suggested, but I'll never come close to that schedule. I'm not training to be a pro body builder. I mean I don't have the work or life schedule to allow for that. 4 days a week in the gym, single sessions, 1.5 hour sessions on avg is what I am able to put in naturally. With the increased recover potential with gear I can prob bump that to 6 days if I don't get out super late from work.

And because I can forsee you saying not worth using then, it is worth it to me. It will help me reach strength and body levels that I obviously will not ever be able to achieve naturally.