just over 3 weeks on HGH, sore finger joints, swelling in feet, need some advice!

[kaps82]

Yes, you do need a PCT. Deca will make your HPTA shutdown very quickly even people say youre shutdown from the first injection. I would run it longer btw, it takes some time until Deca kicks in.
I don’t think you’ll have gyno from that dose, but it would be helpful to run caber 0.25 twice a week to prevent the cells (prolactogenic cells, if I remember correct) that secrete prolactin from developing in the brain.
I cannot say anything about HGH though, I don’t know much about it as I’ve never used it.
And I want to mention that you should run low dose of testosterone while taking Deca. Deca doesn’t work exactly the way Test works so it cannot help with the bodily functions that test regulates.

thanks for the information, do you think 100mg of Test per week be ok with Deca?

[The God Himself]

thanks for the information, do you think 100mg of Test per week be ok with Deca?

Yes its ok but since your HPTA will already be shutdown, why wouldn’t you up your dosage to maximize the gains?
By the way, since it is not recommended to do your first cycle with more than one compound, please make sure you are under your doctor’s supervision.

[kaps82]

that's exactly why i am a bit wary of using Deca, as this is my first time on a compound that too HGH. My doc infact thinks i can benefit using Deca while on HGH & he maybe 100% right but it's just when he says with AAS there's always that little risk that gets me thinking if its worth me trying it.

[Windex]

that's exactly why i am a bit wary of using Deca, as this is my first time on a compound that too HGH. My doc infact thinks i can benefit using Deca while on HGH & he maybe 100% right but it's just when he says with AAS there's always that little risk that gets me thinking if its worth me trying it.

You shouldn't use Deca. You need to read the educational threads

I'm not sure why the guy above saying HGH shouldn't be used every day that's completely false.

In the future you should only consider Deca if you are willing to accept the risk of being on TRT for the rest of your life and the cost associated with that. Nandrolone (aka Deca Durablolin) is one of the biggest reasons people end up on TRT because it's hard to recover from.

On top of that, you will test positive on a drug test for up approx 527 days when you use Deca. Depending on any sports or jobs that may be enough of a deterrent. Also Deca for 8 weeks is useless.

You need to start by understanding hormones and compounds and invest time in education - blindly following information is going to set yourself up for failure. Most Doctors, even Endocrinologists don't know a lot about steroids. Typically what happens is they don't keep up on medicine after leaving school. My first specialist was clueless because she was 60 and was using information/programs from the 80s which is completely out dated.

Running HGH for 2 more months then stopping also accomplished nothing outside of helping your injury.


Honestly just focus on the injury, and spend your down time on education and research, not from gym bros or youtube but real literature. The goals you have stated don't really correlate to needing HGh. Do yourself this favour because to be honest right now your a train wreck waiting to happen - you are all over the place.

[kaps82]

You shouldn't use Deca. You need to read the educational threads

I'm not sure why the guy above saying HGH shouldn't be used every day that's completely false.

In the future you should only consider Deca if you are willing to accept the risk of being on TRT for the rest of your life and the cost associated with that. Nandrolone (aka Deca Durablolin) is one of the biggest reasons people end up on TRT because it's hard to recover from.

On top of that, you will test positive on a drug test for up approx 527 days when you use Deca. Depending on any sports or jobs that may be enough of a deterrent. Also Deca for 8 weeks is useless.

You need to start by understanding hormones and compounds and invest time in education - blindly following information is going to set yourself up for failure. Most Doctors, even Endocrinologists don't know a lot about steroids. Typically what happens is they don't keep up on medicine after leaving school. My first specialist was clueless because she was 60 and was using information/programs from the 80s which is completely out dated.

Running HGH for 2 more months then stopping also accomplished nothing outside of helping your injury.


Honestly just focus on the injury, and spend your down time on education and research, not from gym bros or youtube but real literature. The goals you have stated don't really correlate to needing HGh. Do yourself this favour because to be honest right now your a train wreck waiting to happen - you are all over the place.

Hi Windex,

Thanks for this post, i am not going to consider deca at all for bodybuilding purposes, read a lot of info & done a lot of research lately & now i know i ain't going for that.

As for the HGH, I've now been on it for about 3.5 months & will be on it for another 6 weeks. I've decided against steroids completely as HGH has done for me more than what i expected & i am happy with the results. What i am going to take is just creatine for about 6 weeks that's all, again i know it's not a steroid however it does tend to give a lot of water, so i'll run it only till the time i am on HGH & that'll be the end of it.

Thanks