Crusing at TRT doses vs PCT?

[AlphaMindz]

Great question man, and I'm glad you're considering these things before just blindly hopping on trt. This is my take on it...

It depends on what your goals are. If you're just trying to attain some personal fitness or physique goals then IMO one should come off after each run and focus on recovering to maintain normal testicular function.

If you want to be a competitive bodybuilder then IMO one cannot afford the time off between cycles because although some gains can be held onto, a lot of the gains will fade over time and if one is trying to get to a professional level then that is a very inefficient approach to using steroids.

In the latter case, it is more efficient to blast and cruise OR blast and come off completely BUT not for the same length of time that the cycle was. The whole time on = time off + pct does NOT apply to professional bodybuilders. If everyone followed that protocol there would be no professional bodybuilders lol. Or maybe there would be but the biggest guys would look like physique competitors! One cannot get to classic physique or straight bodybuilding classes by staying off for as long as they were on, and anyone telling people that is lying..straight up!

Now, I am NOT saying that everyone should just stay on gear year round and throw caution to the wind. Please don't mistake what I'm saying. For most people who are using steroids to achieve personal goals, I believe they should cycle as safely as possible which IS doing a pct and staying off for at least the amount of time you were on.

In your particular case, I would go ahead and see what your levels currently are at your age, and based on that reading you can decide whether or not trt may be a good option. If your levels are above 4-500 then you can prob build plenty of muscle at that level. If you don't have symptoms of low t and you're not trying to be a bodybuilder then I'd recommend cycling like "normal" people as that is the safest way, not only for your HPTA, but also your cholesterol, triglycerides, hematocrit, and various other factors that affect health.

Hope this helps and let us know what you decide to do.

[sleepstalker]

Great question man, and I'm glad you're considering these things before just blindly hopping on trt. This is my take on it...

It depends on what your goals are. If you're just trying to attain some personal fitness or physique goals then IMO one should come off after each run and focus on recovering to maintain normal testicular function.

If you want to be a competitive bodybuilder then IMO one cannot afford the time off between cycles because although some gains can be held onto, a lot of the gains will fade over time and if one is trying to get to a professional level then that is a very inefficient approach to using steroids.

In the latter case, it is more efficient to blast and cruise OR blast and come off completely BUT not for the same length of time that the cycle was. The whole time on = time off + pct does NOT apply to professional bodybuilders. If everyone followed that protocol there would be no professional bodybuilders lol. Or maybe there would be but the biggest guys would look like physique competitors! One cannot get to classic physique or straight bodybuilding classes by staying off for as long as they were on, and anyone telling people that is lying..straight up!

Now, I am NOT saying that everyone should just stay on gear year round and throw caution to the wind. Please don't mistake what I'm saying. For most people who are using steroids to achieve personal goals, I believe they should cycle as safely as possible which IS doing a pct and staying off for at least the amount of time you were on.

In your particular case, I would go ahead and see what your levels currently are at your age, and based on that reading you can decide whether or not trt may be a good option. If your levels are above 4-500 then you can prob build plenty of muscle at that level. If you don't have symptoms of low t and you're not trying to be a bodybuilder then I'd recommend cycling like "normal" people as that is the safest way, not only for your HPTA, but also your cholesterol, triglycerides, hematocrit, and various other factors that affect health.

Hope this helps and let us know what you decide to do.

Thank you, I appreciate the response. I feel its inevitable for me. Based on my genetics and medical history. But yeah coming off seems like a healthy and responsible thing for now. I do prefer the classic or physique look like from the 60-70s. Just not sure for my body if that requires staying on (blasting and crusing). I really wonder if the greats really did abuse gear when it was still legal in the golden era.

[Windex]

Thank you, I appreciate the response. I feel its inevitable for me. Based on my genetics and medical history. But yeah coming off seems like a healthy and responsible thing for now. I do prefer the classic or physique look like from the 60-70s. Just not sure for my body if that requires staying on (blasting and crusing). I really wonder if the greats really did abuse gear when it was still legal in the golden era.

The pros from 80s and 90s that have openly talked about PEDs have also admitted to now being on TRT. Gear is maybe the last 5-10% of the equation especially more so if you just want a classic look.

Between diet, eca, ecy, clen and T3 you can get low body fat to have the hard 6pack look. You won't look like Arnold or Frank Zane, but you can get reasonably close (9-12% BF) and have a body to be proud of. It's the 4-7% body fat range that requires a pharmacy.

Going the blasting/cruising route greatly increases the chance of ending up on TRT as already mentioned. Here are some questions you need to ask yourself :

1 - Can you afford ending up on TRT? I'm not talking about this year or even over the next 10 years. It's a lifelong commitment. You are 30 now. Say you start TRT at 35 after continuous cycling. For the sake of easy math, assume $1000.00/year to be on TRT. Well at 65 if you go to retire you will have $30, 000.00 less to retire with. Maybe that makes the difference of retiring at 65 vs having to work until 70.

2 - Do you have any "world" goals that might interfere? Do you want to travel to europe ? backpack the mountains of Asia ? Live in a different country one day? These are still possible with TRT but added headaches.

3. What level of "risk" are you willing to accept? Life is full of surprises - life events, injuries, etc. If something happens and you can't train anymore and you are stuck on TRT - will that be something you can cope with ?

Make sure you consider all your options and give yourself a fair chance to consider the potential outcomes.

I think of it this way:

Marriage (in theory) is a lifelong commitment same as TRT. I wouldn't ask someone to marry me after a week and I didn't decide on TRT after a week either.