Low dose prami and dbol...

[Obs]

maybe the prami would help then in regards to cutting, as multiple dosing it throughout the day will probably effect your appetite .

but knowing you, the HGH will stimulate a strong Ghrelin response and turn you into an eating machine (funny how GH is advertised as a 'fat loss' hormone, yet it can make your appetite ravenous)

I am still very amateur at this. This month marks year two back on AAS and lifting.
I have to start working with secondary growth factors. Cutting has never been a concern because I know that part will come with ease. I want more tissue and to fill it out. I want to be 230-240 dry as hell before I get on stage. Even then I still feel like I need to be bigger than that to hold a candle to what is out there.

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I am still very amateur at this. This month marks year two back on AAS and lifting.
I have to start working with secondary growth factors. Cutting has never been a concern because I know that part will come with ease. I want more tissue and to fill it out. I want to be 230-240 dry as hell before I get on stage. Even then I still feel like I need to be bigger than that to hold a candle to what is out there.

I wouldn’t worry about that man... conditioning is key ... you could’ve 180 and outshone someone that’s 200.
You got this bro


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I wouldn’t worry about that man... conditioning is key ... you could’ve 180 and outshone someone that’s 200.
You got this bro


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I dont want classic though. I want open class.
Beef beef and more beef until I collapse. I have a good 8 years to go

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I dont want classic though. I want open class.
Beef beef and more beef until I collapse. I have a good 8 years to go

those weight classes I gave you ARE for the bodybuilding class.

classic is even lower and its based on height .

only the IFBB open bodybuilding does not have weight classes. the NPC does have weight classes. so you'll have to make a weight or fit into one class or another

[Obs]

those weight classes I gave you ARE for the bodybuilding class.

classic is even lower and its based on height .

only the IFBB open bodybuilding does not have weight classes. the NPC does have weight classes. so you'll have to make a weight or fit into one class or another

See I dodnt even know that. I thought open was open

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See I dodnt even know that. I thought open was open

lol ok never mind . yes, NPC is based on weight classes . most guys have to cut down and make a weight class. you earn your Pro card in a given weight class , and THEN after that as an IFBB pro you can move to the open class

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you probably know this already .. think I confused your post and what you were saying

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your goal is TO GET to the open class , and therefore being 240+ is essential . thats what I think I missed

[Obs]

your goal is TO GET to the open class , and therefore being 240+ is essential . thats what I think I missed

I just want to qualify and get my pro card. From there I will be chasing shit I dont have the genetics for and started too late to accomplish.
I wish to fuck I could go back to 19 years old and never stop. Life just beat the fuck outta me for 11 years afterward. I came back to get out of a rough spot. Now its the only thing in my life that makes any damn sense.

Feroce was a perfect example. He was honestly not tgat big when he got his pro card. Since he has built his life around it via endorsements and merchandise. He got a lot lot damn bigger since getting his pro card.

[Obs]

Feroce at npc nationals

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I am still very amateur at this. This month marks year two back on AAS and lifting.
I have to start working with secondary growth factors. Cutting has never been a concern because I know that part will come with ease. I want more tissue and to fill it out. I want to be 230-240 dry as hell before I get on stage. Even then I still feel like I need to be bigger than that to hold a candle to what is out there.

I was just thinking if you have that much of an appetite while on Tren , you'll have even more with HGH added in there. so with that appetite should definitely help with the growth.
adding in growth factors will definitely help put you past where you are now. especially using them like you mentioned during 'bridging' phases. As loosing gains is far worse then not making gains. So while off cycle if you can actually make some improvements, that is huge.


As for 240 dry as hell for a show. your not waiting to jump on an IFBB open stage right ? Ameature NPC you'll be put in a weight class and I'm pretty sure 240 pounds is 20 pounds over what the super heavy weight class starts at (like 219 and up). I believe heavy weight is 198 to 219.
your already going to easily fit into the heavy weight class. why would you want to move up to supers before your first show ?
If the show is a smaller local level show, and your a super heavy weight over 219 pounds, heck you may be the only guy in that class (which wouldn't be fun imo).. everyone else is going to be light, middle, and heavy weight .

not sure if my numbers are correct. would have to look at the NPC rules again . but just saying you don't really need to put on a ton of size at this point to get on stage and do really well in the heavy weight class (no need to shoot for supers).

BUT , you probably want to be the biggest Mofo in the room

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I was just thinking if you have that much of an appetite while on Tren , you'll have even more with HGH added in there. so with that appetite should definitely help with the growth.
adding in growth factors will definitely help put you past where you are now. especially using them like you mentioned during 'bridging' phases. As loosing gains is far worse then not making gains. So while off cycle if you can actually make some improvements, that is huge.


As for 240 dry as hell for a show. your not waiting to jump on an IFBB open stage right ? Ameature NPC you'll be put in a weight class and I'm pretty sure 240 pounds is 20 pounds over what the super heavy weight class starts at (like 219 and up). I believe heavy weight is 198 to 219.
your already going to easily fit into the heavy weight class. why would you want to move up to supers before your first show ?
If the show is a smaller local level show, and your a super heavy weight over 219 pounds, heck you may be the only guy in that class (which wouldn't be fun imo).. everyone else is going to be light, middle, and heavy weight .

not sure if my numbers are correct. would have to look at the NPC rules again . but just saying you don't really need to put on a ton of size at this point to get on stage and do really well in the heavy weight class (no need to shoot for supers).

BUT , you probably want to be the biggest Mofo in the room

I want to qualify for IFBB. National level npc.
Competition is fierce and I am in no way near it at this point.