AI question

[GearHeaded]

heres an example scenario based on point one in my last post.

- lets say we have a guy who is 'lean bulking' , he is on 250mg per week of test, 500mg tren, 500mg masteron. lets say 6 weeks in he has not put on near the tissue he had hoped for . he is up a few pounds is all . the cycle is way to dry and androgenic to put on real size.
here are two possible options

1 - straight up inject the dude with Estrogen . he needs it elevated. he's not growing well without it.
(I don't advise this lol)

2- bump the guys Test dosage up to 800mg without using an AI , or add in 50mg per day of Dbol. He'll get the added anabolic effects plus all the estrogen he needs to start helping him put on size (estrogen is very anabolic in the presence of elevated androgens)

[z06vett]

heres an example scenario based on point one in my last post.

- lets say we have a guy who is 'lean bulking' , he is on 250mg per week of test, 500mg tren, 500mg masteron. lets say 6 weeks in he has not put on near the tissue he had hoped for . he is up a few pounds is all . the cycle is way to dry and androgenic to put on real size.
here are two possible options

1 - straight up inject the dude with Estrogen . he needs it elevated. he's not growing well without it.
(I don't advise this lol)

2- bump the guys Test dosage up to 800mg without using an AI , or add in 50mg per day of Dbol. He'll get the added anabolic effects plus all the estrogen he needs to start helping him put on size (estrogen is very anabolic in the presence of elevated androgens)

this info is very use full to me thanks! you broke it down to laments term. so basically u dont wanna block out all estrogen if ur trying to put on size. is what im understanding

[GearHeaded]

this info is very use full to me thanks! you broke it down to laments term. so basically u dont wanna block out all estrogen if ur trying to put on size. is what im understanding

yeah , thats why a lot of guys when trying to put on size will end up running a SERM (like nolva) instead of an AI for estrogen sides .. as the SERM will not lower total estrogen (so its there to help you grow), it will only block estrogen at receptor sites like in breast tissue to prevent gyno ,, whereas an AI stops the conversion process itself and will thus lower ALL estrogen (which is fine for getting lean and show ready, but not great for size and growth)

[z06vett]

Got ya now with higher dosage for test 800-12k a week wouldnt estrogen Need to be takin care at such a high rate of test.

[GearHeaded]

Got ya now with higher dosage for test 800-12k a week wouldnt estrogen Need to be takin care at such a high rate of test.

its still really 'person dependent' and situation dependent . I've ran cycles where I've ran an AI and a SERM with only 400mg of test.. or, like right now I'm running 1250 mg of test per week, 500 deca, 400 tren. and No AI or SERM.

however I'm running a product i sell over the counter at my gym , Black Stone Labs - Eradicate. its an OTC anti-estrogen. I'm just running it myself just for grins. but on this cycle I could still definitely go without it and not run an AI at all and just a little Nolva 10mg per day and be just fine.
IF I was prepping for a show though, I'd be running a strong dose of an AI. or if I was not on TRT and planning to do a PCT, then at the end of my cycle I'd probably run an AI.
again , really depending on the situation