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    GH,

    Does it really need to be this complicated for people to continue to grow? I am asking because I do not know. I am just happy that my sport of choice does not involve this complicated type of AAS cycling :-)

    For anyone trying this, I saw guitarzan is, I would love to hear results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    GH,

    Does it really need to be this complicated for people to continue to grow? I am asking because I do not know. I am just happy that my sport of choice does not involve this complicated type of AAS cycling :-)

    For anyone trying this, I saw guitarzan is, I would love to hear results.
    It will probably be first of next year before I try it, I've got about six weeks left on current cut/recomp cycle. Plus I'm the kind that likes to all the gear before starting, I've gotta find a source for a couple of the compounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    It will probably be first of next year before I try it, I've got about six weeks left on current cut/recomp cycle. Plus I'm the kind that likes to all the gear before starting, I've gotta find a source for a couple of the compounds.
    Let me know when you find a source for the Cytadren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Let me know when you find a source for the Cytadren
    Will do, looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Let me know when you find a source for the Cytadren
    Me also please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Let me know when you find a source for the Cytadren
    just a hint guys.. you'll probably have better luck looking for " Aminoglutethimide " (which is the actual chemical name for Cytadren).
    BUT its super pricey guys . like I said in another post , you can use the combination of "winstrol and letro" and have a somewhat similar effect (but a totally diff mechanism of action)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    just a hint guys.. you'll probably have better luck looking for " Aminoglutethimide " (which is the actual chemical name for Cytadren).
    BUT its super pricey guys . like I said in another post , you can use the combination of "winstrol and letro" and have a somewhat similar effect (but a totally diff mechanism of action)
    Looks to be about $5.20 per 250 mg tab. So about $150 for the 14 day supply. But I can only find 100 tab minimum.

    Tarzan you buy the 100 and I’ll buy 30 from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Looks to be about $5.20 per 250 mg tab. So about $150 for the 14 day supply. But I can only find 100 tab minimum.

    Tarzan you buy the 100 and I’ll buy 30 from you.
    I'm in

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    just a hint guys.. you'll probably have better luck looking for " Aminoglutethimide " (which is the actual chemical name for Cytadren).
    BUT its super pricey guys . like I said in another post , you can use the combination of "winstrol and letro" and have a somewhat similar effect (but a totally diff mechanism of action)
    GH,

    The first thing I did was Google Cytadren because I had never heard of it. The Wikipedia page on it is fairly decent but I, obviously, only have surface knowledge thus far. I did notice that it is only legal in three countries due to toxicity and that some alternatives were proposed. None of these seems to be sold here in India so I can not give you a price comparison. A lot of words for a simple question :-)

    Are the alternatives proposed as good as Cytadren itself for this specific purpose taking the toxicity of Cytadren into consideration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    GH,

    The first thing I did was Google Cytadren because I had never heard of it. The Wikipedia page on it is fairly decent but I, obviously, only have surface knowledge thus far. I did notice that it is only legal in three countries due to toxicity and that some alternatives were proposed. None of these seems to be sold here in India so I can not give you a price comparison. A lot of words for a simple question :-)

    Are the alternatives proposed as good as Cytadren itself for this specific purpose taking the toxicity of Cytadren into consideration?
    "toxicity" is a very relative and context dependent term. so many of the drugs that we take are considered 'toxic' , and thats why we alter the time frame and the dosage to help limit that negativity... to put it in context, Aspirin is very common drug, however its so toxic that if you accidentally take too much at once it leads to death. . very few AAS based compounds and hormone drugs that a bodybuilder uses has that level of toxicity and side effects as does Aspirin (leading to a quick over dose and death)

    as for Cytadren-- in the example protocol I laid out, I have it being used for ONLY 14 days . thats it. and at a very reasonable dosage. I'm guessing at that short of a time frame its going to be less toxic then a Big Mac at mcdondalds


    BUT , to answer your question about 'alternatives' ,, YES, I did specifically mention an alternative and gave an example. Running Letro and Winstrol together for a 14 day blast will also have similar results as running the Cytadren (the mechanisms of actions are very very different, but the end results are similar).

    as for the direct alternatives to Cytadren used in the medical community to treat things like cushings syndrome, I'm unaware of those drugs being used in bodybuilding as a Safer alternative to it . and this is probably because a bodybuilders usage and time frame of Cytadren is so minimal that an alternative for toxicity sake is unwarranted (now 'price point' is a whole different subject)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    just a hint guys.. you'll probably have better luck looking for " Aminoglutethimide " (which is the actual chemical name for Cytadren).
    BUT its super pricey guys . like I said in another post , you can use the combination of "winstrol and letro" and have a somewhat similar effect (but a totally diff mechanism of action)
    GH , just want to thank you for being selfish and providing us with tons of amazing info on all this.
    I'm in my 30's and definitely appreciate a good read ( yes physical books ) haha and even with that being said , I'm still learning more and more everyday from you so

    Thanks brother , it's very appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    GH,

    Does it really need to be this complicated for people to continue to grow? I am asking because I do not know. I am just happy that my sport of choice does not involve this complicated type of AAS cycling :-)

    For anyone trying this, I saw guitarzan is, I would love to hear results.
    Tarmyg, thanks for joining in. your comments are always beneficial.

    I will just say that the 'complicated' nature of protocols laid forth in this thread were not made up or invented by me.. sure I've done lots of research and put lots of things together and chatted with guys about some of these types of protocols. BUT I cannot take credit for them as my idea (I have my own ideas and twists on things for certain reasons).

    A lot of these methods have been around for 25+ years. 'Gurus' from the 90s that helped put guys on the Olympia stage have written about these methods (and they were used at the highest levels).
    My point is, these type of protocols have been tried and true, proven and worked, and been around a long time. so they are really not as 'complicated' as they appear on the surface , but they are definitely advanced (again practiced at the highest level .. and perhaps most of us don't need to dabble with these type of protocols, but at the same time why not have the knowledge available to us and ability to utilize if we so chose).

    driving a Toyota prius around a race track is probably not all that complicated, and perhaps may be enough to satisfy our adrenaline. But , properly learning how to implement all the advanced protocols of driving a formula 1 car, learning all the ends and outs over time and lots of study, AND then getting to drive the formula 1 race car on the race track is probably a whole different experience.

    so its just about options and choices

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