Anavar vs dbol

[i_SLAM_cougars]

GearHeaded, I've always considered dianabol a shit oral compared to Anadrol for the purposes or kicking off a cycle and Strength gains, but you've got me thinking I should give it another chance.

What's your opinion on one vs. the other?

[GearHeaded]

GearHeaded, I've always considered dianabol a shit oral compared to Anadrol for the purposes or kicking off a cycle and Strength gains, but you've got me thinking I should give it another chance.

What's your opinion on one vs. the other?

I really like them both. You'll see me list them quite often in cycle protocols that I may recommend.. however for me personally, Anadrol effects my appetite quite a bit and I can't run it over say 3 weeks. if I run it longer I will do something like 2 days on 2 days off etc..
now I have ran both together and know others guys that have done the same with very good results (if you got a steel liver). 50mg Dbol 50mg Andarol per day , or 100mg Andarol day 1, 50mg dbol day 2, repeat..

now to decide which one is best for you dependent on your cycle goals. couple points..

- Dbol converts to estrogen via the Aromatase enzyme. not only does it convert heavily, it converts into a very strong and biologically available form of estrogen . so its a very potent 'wet' and estrogenic compound

- Andarol is a DHT derived steroid . SO it is unable to convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. But it is still estrogenic as it itself is able to bind to receptors and bring about estrogenic activity . you cannot take an AI to control estrogen sides from Anadrol . only a SERM will work , because all the activity is at the receptor itself.

so the estrogenic nature of each drug is pretty important to help you decide how to utilize each one. I personally really like Dbol pre-workout (it helps with mood as well). Anadrol on the other hand can actually be used pre-contest (not so with Dbol). Adrol can really help fill up a guy who has gone flat from dieting. using it 3 weeks out from a show is pretty common.

some other small points
- Dbol at higher doses will increase IGF levels and decrease cortisol
- Anadrol has anti-prolactin effects (so its synergetic with 19 nor compounds)

[i_SLAM_cougars]

Thank you for the incredibly detailed comparison, you're like an encyclopedia. Time to give the dbol another go...

[greaseywrench1]

I really like them both. You'll see me list them quite often in cycle protocols that I may recommend.. however for me personally, Anadrol effects my appetite quite a bit and I can't run it over say 3 weeks. if I run it longer I will do something like 2 days on 2 days off etc..
now I have ran both together and know others guys that have done the same with very good results (if you got a steel liver). 50mg Dbol 50mg Andarol per day , or 100mg Andarol day 1, 50mg dbol day 2, repeat..

now to decide which one is best for you dependent on your cycle goals. couple points..

- Dbol converts to estrogen via the Aromatase enzyme. not only does it convert heavily, it converts into a very strong and biologically available form of estrogen . so its a very potent 'wet' and estrogenic compound

- Andarol is a DHT derived steroid . SO it is unable to convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme. But it is still estrogenic as it itself is able to bind to receptors and bring about estrogenic activity . you cannot take an AI to control estrogen sides from Anadrol . only a SERM will work , because all the activity is at the receptor itself.

so the estrogenic nature of each drug is pretty important to help you decide how to utilize each one. I personally really like Dbol pre-workout (it helps with mood as well). Anadrol on the other hand can actually be used pre-contest (not so with Dbol). Adrol can really help fill up a guy who has gone flat from dieting. using it 3 weeks out from a show is pretty common.

some other small points
- Dbol at higher doses will increase IGF levels and decrease cortisol
- Anadrol has anti-prolactin effects (so its synergetic with 19 nor compounds)

Gearheaded, I’m running 750mg test enanthate a week and dbol. Should I step my adex up from .25mg eod due to the eatrogenic properties of dbol? I may do your taper method....

[GearHeaded]

Gearheaded, I’m running 750mg test enanthate a week and dbol. Should I step my adex up from .25mg eod due to the eatrogenic properties of dbol? I may do your taper method....

I would need more details about you and your cycle history and if your sensitive to estgeon or not or ever had gyno flare ups, in order to provide you a better answer.

but off the cuff -- fuck upping the AI and just throw in some Nolva at this stage of the game . especially if overall growth is your goal. Your elevated estrogen levels from the Dbol and test will help you grow, while the Nolva will block Estrgeons negative side effects at the receptor site itself in fat and breast tissue... where as an AI is going to lower estrogen all together (which is not optimal for overall growth gains).
you may be better off dropping the AI all together and just rolling with the Nolva . but again I would need more history and info to say that for sure

[greaseywrench1]

I would need more details about you and your cycle history and if your sensitive to estgeon or not or ever had gyno flare ups, in order to provide you a better answer.

but off the cuff -- fuck upping the AI and just throw in some Nolva at this stage of the game . especially if overall growth is your goal. Your elevated estrogen levels from the Dbol and test will help you grow, while the Nolva will block Estrgeons negative side effects at the receptor site itself in fat and breast tissue... where as an AI is going to lower estrogen all together (which is not optimal for overall growth gains).
you may be better off dropping the AI all together and just rolling with the Nolva . but again I would need more history and info to say that for sure

My last cycle was 600mg test a week for 12 weeks with arimidex eod at .25 and my bloodwork showed test levels just under 2900 and estrogen at 67. No itchy nips, gyno or bloating... Only side was acne at week 12 as I ended and throughout PCT that resides after