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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldemor View Post
    Thank you both for the replies so fast.

    I could go for a three bottle cycle, 15 weeks but that would depend on the prices I get as I have to get it smuggled from another country. I'm currently waiting till Monday too see how much I need to spend on it in total( not a website purchase)


    AlphaMindz What you wrote about tweaking the dosage depending on the week sounds very complicated and would need a deeper in-depth explanation as English is not my first language.

    From your ^^^ experience what gave the best results? Going same dosage the whole cycle or tweaking it by decreasing and increasing it?


    I do suffer from severe insomnia I've had for over a year where I've been prescribed more medications then I can count but never really had a thing for pills.

    I do smoke a decent amount of cannabis only after I've worked out for the day if that will have any impact.
    Well GH has a point as this board has a culture and part of that culture is advising against guys under ~25 from using steroids. If an outsider comes across this board and sees that we're condoning steroid use for young guys like yourself it would make us look like irresponsible meat heads lol (as if the stereotypes haven't been exacerbated enough lol).

    I wouldn't want my son using steroids unless he had a damn good reason, was old enough, has built a solid base naturally, and was being smart about it (regular blood work and healthy diet to minimize impact on lipids).

    Having said that, I'd still prefer for you do it responsibly and armed with the proper info than for you to mess yourself up so do me a favor and PM me and I'll give you my opinion on how to do this in the safest and most effective manner.

    I do wanna say one thing on the open forum and that is cannabis use will have a large impact on the aromatase enzyme and significantly increases the conversion rate of testosterone to estrogen. If you're having low t symptoms then that could very well be why. You also mentioned that you take "more meds than you can count" and many meds also increase estrogen in men. Estrogen binds to the hypothalamus and deactivates testosterone production because your HPTA cannot tell the difference between test and estro.

    You may want to consider making some lifestyle changes so your body can build muscle and burn fat at an optimal rate. IMO it wouldn't be a good idea to slap a huge band-aid (in the form of testosterone) on top of all the meds and thc you're putting in your body and then taking a high dose of AI to manage estrogen...Just isn't healthy and may further complicate the issues you have that you're taking these meds for in the first place.

    My advice is to find a physician that can help you with this as there is a good chance your levels are low (even at your age) and it would be favorable for a doctor to supervise a trt protocol and manage your e2 as that will def be something to keep an eye on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Well GH has a point as this board has a culture and part of that culture is advising against guys under ~25 from using steroids. If an outsider comes across this board and sees that we're condoning steroid use for young guys like yourself it would make us look like irresponsible meat heads lol (as if the stereotypes haven't been exacerbated enough lol).

    I wouldn't want my son using steroids unless he had a damn good reason, was old enough, has built a solid base naturally, and was being smart about it (regular blood work and healthy diet to minimize impact on lipids).

    Having said that, I'd still prefer for you do it responsibly and armed with the proper info than for you to mess yourself up so do me a favor and PM me and I'll give you my opinion on how to do this in the safest and most effective manner.

    I do wanna say one thing on the open forum and that is cannabis use will have a large impact on the aromatase enzyme and significantly increases the conversion rate of testosterone to estrogen. If you're having low t symptoms then that could very well be why. You also mentioned that you take "more meds than you can count" and many meds also increase estrogen in men. Estrogen binds to the hypothalamus and deactivates testosterone production because your HPTA cannot tell the difference between test and estro.

    You may want to consider making some lifestyle changes so your body can build muscle and burn fat at an optimal rate. IMO it wouldn't be a good idea to slap a huge band-aid (in the form of testosterone) on top of all the meds and thc you're putting in your body and then taking a high dose of AI to manage estrogen...Just isn't healthy and may further complicate the issues you have that you're taking these meds for in the first place.

    My advice is to find a physician that can help you with this as there is a good chance your levels are low (even at your age) and it would be favorable for a doctor to supervise a trt protocol and manage your e2 as that will def be something to keep an eye on..
    Exactly how much does cannabis increase the aromatase activity I've been hearing a lot about this lately and I'm quite curious

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    And those of you that know me know I Advocate the use of cannabis if one chooses to do so, but I found the times I'm not smoking or when I make my best games I'm able to stick to my diet the most and I've look my best when I've taken a hiatus from use

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post

    I do wanna say one thing on the open forum and that is cannabis use will have a large impact on the aromatase enzyme and significantly increases the conversion rate of testosterone to estrogen. If you're having low t symptoms then that could very well be why. You also mentioned that you take "more meds than you can count" and many meds also increase estrogen in men. Estrogen binds to the hypothalamus and deactivates testosterone production because your HPTA cannot tell the difference between test and estro.

    You may want to consider making some lifestyle changes so your body can build muscle and burn fat at an optimal rate. IMO it wouldn't be a good idea to slap a huge band-aid (in the form of testosterone) on top of all the meds and thc you're putting in your body and then taking a high dose of AI to manage estrogen...Just isn't healthy and may further complicate the issues you have that you're taking these meds for in the first place.

    My advice is to find a physician that can help you with this as there is a good chance your levels are low (even at your age) and it would be favorable for a doctor to supervise a trt protocol and manage your e2 as that will def be something to keep an eye on..
    You misunderstood, I've had severe insomnia for over a year and been prescribed more types of meds then I can count but I don't take them, but I smoke weed insted to sleep.

    I take vitamin,mineral and omega 3,6,9 supplements and those are the only pills I take(omega 3 is in liquid form)

    I've held my weight at 67-69ish kg depending on the season since I used to compete at -67kg in powerlifting.

    Since I couldn't remember to bring this up, I have visited my Doctor and I got a 54resting pulse with a normal bp and above normal test levels for my age. I do not have a chart with the exact numbers as I forgot to ask. I will check my test levels again, pre cycle, mid cycle and after pct. I will also go weekly to check my heart rate and things like that.

    I've had a strict diet for the past three years now with no cheat meals. I get around 210g of protein each day with 5-6meals in total.

    I don't have any of the side effects that low T would say. I always got more energy then I can spend, I have no self-esteem issues nor am I depressed.


    I'll throw you a PM once I hit my 50 posts. I'm not the guy to just take something without doing heavy amounts of research.
    Last edited by Oldemor; 10-25-2018 at 07:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    Well GH has a point as this board has a culture and part of that culture is advising against guys under ~25 from using steroids. If an outsider comes across this board and sees that we're condoning steroid use for young guys like yourself it would make us look like irresponsible meat heads lol (as if the stereotypes haven't been exacerbated enough lol).

    I wouldn't want my son using steroids unless he had a damn good reason, was old enough, has built a solid base naturally, and was being smart about it (regular blood work and healthy diet to minimize impact on lipids).

    Having said that, I'd still prefer for you do it responsibly and armed with the proper info than for you to mess yourself up so do me a favor and PM me and I'll give you my opinion on how to do this in the safest and most effective manner.

    I do wanna say one thing on the open forum and that is cannabis use will have a large impact on the aromatase enzyme and significantly increases the conversion rate of testosterone to estrogen. If you're having low t symptoms then that could very well be why. You also mentioned that you take "more meds than you can count" and many meds also increase estrogen in men. Estrogen binds to the hypothalamus and deactivates testosterone production because your HPTA cannot tell the difference between test and estro.

    You may want to consider making some lifestyle changes so your body can build muscle and burn fat at an optimal rate. IMO it wouldn't be a good idea to slap a huge band-aid (in the form of testosterone) on top of all the meds and thc you're putting in your body and then taking a high dose of AI to manage estrogen...Just isn't healthy and may further complicate the issues you have that you're taking these meds for in the first place.

    My advice is to find a physician that can help you with this as there is a good chance your levels are low (even at your age) and it would be favorable for a doctor to supervise a trt protocol and manage your e2 as that will def be something to keep an eye on..
    I think the "weed inceases estrogen" is bro science.

    Here's a study showing antiestrogenic effects from smoked cannabis https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16392670/

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