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    I don't find the app's accurate, I tried one once and plugged in my stats and got 250 calories less than what it actually was when I did the math myself to get my TDEE. 250 calories does't sound like a lot but 250 calories/day over a 12 week cycle is 21, 000 calories which would be equivalent to ~6lbs. Plus as you said you have to adjust as the weight goes up which is compounded by being on gear. If you gain 1lb a week it might make your TDEE go up 40 then 50 then 70 etc calories which could account for another 1/3 or 1/2 lb

    I noticed a big change in pumps when I started following Stan Efferdings Sodium guidelines this year - I'm up to about 6-7grams per day with 1gram pre and 1gram postworkout. Sodium was demonized for so long yet it's extremely important and even moreso for bodybuilding. I completely overlooked it forever but better late than never.

    Biggest pumps means more blood flow to muscles which means more nutrition going there instead of elsewhere.

    If March was the last time you calculated your BMR it shouldn't be accurate unless your stats have not changed whatsoever since then.
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    Tdee is bullshit.

    The generalizations are useless as the basis for everyones diet.

    Also bear in mind your choloesterol may be trash if on tren then especially so.
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    Glad you bought up you lipids that’s the first thing that sprung to my mind, be careful man. That shit is not good for you, especially combined with the drugs. Look up the macro profile online and just match all the profiles including sodium and make your own meal out of cleaner foods.

    I’d say you theory on the benefits of gear could be right, being able to utilise the calories more sufficiently and the increase in TDEE from the drugs. If your using fitnesspals guidelines then you could very well have been eating under your BMR as the app isn’t all that accurate. I’d take this as an opportunity to identify your BMR by adjusting calories as you are until you see some fat gain, this will give you a better idea as to where you sit BMR wise.

    The more food you consume, the more thermogenic you will become… So right now with the drugs, training, added food your metabolism is on fire!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eduke93 View Post
    Glad you bought up you lipids that’s the first thing that sprung to my mind, be careful man. That shit is not good for you, especially combined with the drugs. Look up the macro profile online and just match all the profiles including sodium and make your own meal out of cleaner foods.

    I’d say you theory on the benefits of gear could be right, being able to utilise the calories more sufficiently and the increase in TDEE from the drugs. If your using fitnesspals guidelines then you could very well have been eating under your BMR as the app isn’t all that accurate. I’d take this as an opportunity to identify your BMR by adjusting calories as you are until you see some fat gain, this will give you a better idea as to where you sit BMR wise.

    The more food you consume, the more thermogenic you will become… So right now with the drugs, training, added food your metabolism is on fire!!!
    And my man Duke, yes that's a great point about combining my own foods in a healthier way to mimic what I'm getting from the crap McDonald's meal lol. That's actually a great idea and I'll look into it, although for now it's nice and convenient, inexpensive, and very effective...but of course it's not a healthy long term approach.

    Hey over there do they call it a double royal with cheese?? Pulp Fiction is a classic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMindz View Post
    And my man Duke, yes that's a great point about combining my own foods in a healthier way to mimic what I'm getting from the crap McDonald's meal lol. That's actually a great idea and I'll look into it, although for now it's nice and convenient, inexpensive, and very effective...but of course it's not a healthy long term approach.

    Hey over there do they call it a double royal with cheese?? Pulp Fiction is a classic!
    Just an idea dude; health is wealth! Haha fvck knows, haven’t had mc’d In about 8-9 years! double royal with cheese, Probs something along them lines lol
    Last edited by Eduke93; 11-02-2018 at 12:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Windex View Post
    I don't find the app's accurate, I tried one once and plugged in my stats and got 250 calories less than what it actually was when I did the math myself to get my TDEE. 250 calories does't sound like a lot but 250 calories/day over a 12 week cycle is 21, 000 calories which would be equivalent to ~6lbs. Plus as you said you have to adjust as the weight goes up which is compounded by being on gear. If you gain 1lb a week it might make your TDEE go up 40 then 50 then 70 etc calories which could account for another 1/3 or 1/2 lb

    I noticed a big change in pumps when I started following Stan Efferdings Sodium guidelines this year - I'm up to about 6-7grams per day with 1gram pre and 1gram postworkout. Sodium was demonized for so long yet it's extremely important and even moreso for bodybuilding. I completely overlooked it forever but better late than never.

    Biggest pumps means more blood flow to muscles which means more nutrition going there instead of elsewhere.

    If March was the last time you calculated your BMR it shouldn't be accurate unless your stats have not changed whatsoever since then.
    Yeah Stan's the man lol he has a lot of good knowledge so he's a great guy to follow IMO and I also enjoy his material.

    I'm going to make a confession here....I haven't counted cals since last year when I was first starting out again. I have a routine and eat similar foods everyday so I just go by feel, but the amount of food I was eating and maintaining on has now increased by 700-1000 and I've started increasing weight, strength, fullness and pumps without adding bf (maybe a little bit but it's minimal) .

    I pretty much go by feel with everything I do including lifting as I don't have a set schedule and basically "freestyle" in the gym. I find doing this helps me with symmetry as I approach it like I'm sculpting a statue (got that mindset from Arnold as he talks about that in his Encyclopedia) but surely when I start getting closer to competing and actually need to prep I will need to quantify everything to be as precise as possible.

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