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    Quote Originally Posted by hardgainrock View Post
    Dude, I went with Deca mostly because of joint issues I was suffering at that time. I don’t regret it at all, since those joint issues are mostly gone. Recovery was easy and libido now is much better than previously to that cycle.

    Regarding gains, the scale went up by almost 11kgs. Now that I’ve cut 7kgs (naturally) and judging from looking into the mirror, I truly believe from those 11kgs, around 7 were lean mass. And I got post cycle blood work checked by an endocrinologist which told me everything was OK.

    I really don’t understand why there is so many people afraid of Deca.
    A Doctor telling you blood work is fine and actually seeing the results are two different things. Your prolactin could be 19 on a range of 12-20 and he would tell you it's okay because it's in range. Your free testosterone could be 301 on a range of 300-700 with total testosterone at high end and he would tell you okay when free test is what's important not total testosterone (arbitrary numbers), and that's even assuming prolactin was checked. A basic bloodwork panel is going to leave out important hormones or other non-hormone markers unless specifically requested.

    If your bloodwork was done earlier than 6-8 weeks finishing the PCT it won't even be accurate to begin with.

    Deca isn't recommended in a first cycle because

    (1) you are shut down from the very first short making it the hardest to recover from

    (2) it's very strong, and steroids have a ceiling. Starting with one of the strongest steroids gives signifcantly less leverage for future.

    (3) you will test positive on a drug test for the next 12 (or more) months, which can be a factor depending on a persons lifestyle or employment

    (4) high estrogen and high prolactin share similar side effects - running both a 19nor and test at the beginning makes it difficult to deduce how you respond to either accurately


    In terms of weight, the scale is the biggest misconception and illusion for bodybuilding.

    It doesn't show water retention.
    It doesn't show bodyfat %
    It doesn't show body measurements
    It doesn't show strength or endurance changes
    It doesn't show how full or depleted muscle glycogen is
    It doesn't show muscle blood volume


    Best of luck on your cycle.
    Last edited by Windex; 11-05-2018 at 08:17 AM.
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