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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie67 View Post
    What's the rationale behind taking both Mast P and Mast E? Or are you planning to drop the P after a few weeks?.
    well sometimes I do things based on pure practicality rather then 'science' . I've got a bunch of bottles of mast prop, yet just one bottle of mast e sitting there , so I'm just using up that bottle of mast e. once thats gone it will be 100mg of Mast prop every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    well sometimes I do things based on pure practicality rather then 'science' . I've got a bunch of bottles of mast prop, yet just one bottle of mast e sitting there , so I'm just using up that bottle of mast e. once thats gone it will be 100mg of Mast prop every day.
    You let me down! I was expecting this big explanation on 1/2 life, synergy between oils and nutrient partitioning. LOL


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    Training --

    ok so I just came off a 12 week training block. it was a 12 week macro cycle, with individual micro cycles that alternated from mechanical tension phases, to more volume and metabolite phases. it was push, pull, legs, with an added arm day.
    so week one (or micro cycle one) would be more heavier weights and mechanical tension focused for all workouts (8-12 rep range), then week two (or micro cycle two) would be more volume and higher reps with a metabolite and blood flow focus (reps were not counted it was all about 'feel', but probably in the 12-30 rep range depending on exercise.)

    anyhow I'm ready for a new 'macro' cycle (training block, workout split, etc). I may change things up completely.

    I'm open to suggestions (HIT, high volume, two a days, super high frequency, etc..)

    until I get it all planned out I'm just doing push pull legs with a more instinctive style training. with some added touch up work days.

    one 'experiment' I'm thinking of trying (and I've already somewhat started) is every day training with no days off. sure you have high intensity days, moderate days, and light touch up work days, but you don't take planned days off. this would only work in a hyper-caloric state and a high drug use state (which I'm doing both).

    just an idea . but again I'm open to ideas for a 'training split experiment"

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Training --

    ok so I just came off a 12 week training block. it was a 12 week macro cycle, with individual micro cycles that alternated from mechanical tension phases, to more volume and metabolite phases. it was push, pull, legs, with an added arm day.
    so week one (or micro cycle one) would be more heavier weights and mechanical tension focused for all workouts (8-12 rep range), then week two (or micro cycle two) would be more volume and higher reps with a metabolite and blood flow focus (reps were not counted it was all about 'feel', but probably in the 12-30 rep range depending on exercise.)

    anyhow I'm ready for a new 'macro' cycle (training block, workout split, etc). I may change things up completely.

    I'm open to suggestions (HIT, high volume, two a days, super high frequency, etc..)

    until I get it all planned out I'm just doing push pull legs with a more instinctive style training. with some added touch up work days.

    one 'experiment' I'm thinking of trying (and I've already somewhat started) is every day training with no days off. sure you have high intensity days, moderate days, and light touch up work days, but you don't take planned days off. this would only work in a hyper-caloric state and a high drug use state (which I'm doing both).

    just an idea . but again I'm open to ideas for a 'training split experiment"
    What about working out 3x day for a max of 30-40 minutes each. A different muscle group each session. Go in and kill the muscle. Limit the rest time. I was in my 20’s and this routine is what started me growing. I would do it if I had time, just to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    What about working out 3x day for a max of 30-40 minutes each. A different muscle group each session. Go in and kill the muscle. Limit the rest time. I was in my 20’s and this routine is what started me growing. I would do it if I had time, just to see.
    so putting that together with say for example a push pull legs.. it would look something like this?

    Day 1 push
    workout 1 Chest
    workout 2 Delts
    workout 3 triceps

    Day 2 pull
    workout 1 Lats and mid back
    workout 2 traps and rear delts
    workout 3 biceps

    Day 3 legs
    workout 1 hamstrings
    workout 2 quads
    workout 3 glutes and calves

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    so putting that together with say for example a push pull legs.. it would look something like this?

    Day 1 push
    workout 1 Chest
    workout 2 Delts
    workout 3 triceps

    Day 2 pull
    workout 1 Lats and mid back
    workout 2 traps and rear delts
    workout 3 biceps

    Day 3 legs
    workout 1 hamstrings
    workout 2 quads
    workout 3 glutes and calves
    Yes. It worked when I was young, I am assuming because of all of the natural test. It should work with high chemicals. If you do try it, let me know how it goes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Yes. It worked when I was young, I am assuming because of all of the natural test. It should work with high chemicals. If you do try it, let me know how it goes.
    ok , yeah whatever I end up doing I will definitely lay it all out in details on this thread and log the results as I go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    so putting that together with say for example a push pull legs.. it would look something like this?

    Day 1 push
    workout 1 Chest
    workout 2 Delts
    workout 3 triceps

    Day 2 pull
    workout 1 Lats and mid back
    workout 2 traps and rear delts
    workout 3 biceps

    Day 3 legs
    workout 1 hamstrings
    workout 2 quads
    workout 3 glutes and calves
    I like that split a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I like that split a lot
    I agree, but it is taxing on the CNS if done right.
    It may be difficult for GH because he will need to ignore people during that time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    so putting that together with say for example a push pull legs.. it would look something like this?

    Day 1 push
    workout 1 Chest
    workout 2 Delts
    workout 3 triceps

    Day 2 pull
    workout 1 Lats and mid back
    workout 2 traps and rear delts
    workout 3 biceps

    Day 3 legs
    workout 1 hamstrings
    workout 2 quads
    workout 3 glutes and calves
    I like it 2 weeks before a show when you are depleted and beat to shit. But I don’t have the time to hit 3 body parts. I’ve got to be in and out in less than an hour. I’m a one part a day type guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I like it 2 weeks before a show when you are depleted and beat to shit. But I don’t have the time to hit 3 body parts. I’ve got to be in and out in less than an hour. I’m a one part a day type guy.
    Wimp!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    What about working out 3x day for a max of 30-40 minutes each. A different muscle group each session. Go in and kill the muscle. Limit the rest time. I was in my 20’s and this routine is what started me growing. I would do it if I had time, just to see.


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    You must have had a good horse if you were taking a horse and buggy to the gym 3x a day in your 20’s. Did Mr. Sandow train there too?

    Sorry couldn’t resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    You must have had a good horse if you were taking a horse and buggy to the gym 3x a day in your 20’s.

    Sorry couldn’t resist.
    Actually, it was in a garage. It was f’ing cold in the winter especially when it got down to -30.
    That was dedication!

    BTW- we were poor no horses. I would walk through 3 feet of snow uphill both ways. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    What about working out 3x day for a max of 30-40 minutes each. A different muscle group each session. Go in and kill the muscle. Limit the rest time. I was in my 20’s and this routine is what started me growing. I would do it if I had time, just to see.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    one 'experiment' I'm thinking of trying (and I've already somewhat started) is every day training with no days off. sure you have high intensity days, moderate days, and light touch up work days, but you don't take planned days off. this would only work in a hyper-caloric state and a high drug use state (which I'm doing both).

    just an idea . but again I'm open to ideas for a 'training split experiment"
    don't think its going to be long for this little experiment to be considered a failure . I'm on my 10th day in a row of working out with no breaks .. I crashed pretty damn hard in the middle of my workout today. totally drained and unable to finish.
    (I know I know, most you guys would of told me that was going to happen)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    don't think its going to be long for this little experiment to be considered a failure . I'm on my 10th day in a row of working out with no breaks .. I crashed pretty damn hard in the middle of my workout today. totally drained and unable to finish.
    (I know I know, most you guys would of told me that was going to happen)
    I could have told you that would happen.
    But I have a physically demanding job. Not as much as Obs. But I’m constantly moving or carrying heavy shit on a daily bases. I have to have recovery time. That’s why I have to go to the gym early in the morning. I’m too beat after work. But I feel bad if I miss a training day even though I’m sure it’s needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I could have told you that would happen.
    But I have a physically demanding job. Not as much as Obs. But I’m constantly moving or carrying heavy shit on a daily bases. I have to have recovery time. That’s why I have to go to the gym early in the morning. I’m too beat after work. But I feel bad if I miss a training day even though I’m sure it’s needed.
    well I feel for you. I owned a contracting company for a lot of years. putting in a hard laborous day for 10+ hours both physically and mentally takes its toll. bout the only physical thing you want to do after work is lift a beer.
    much easier and efficient to put on muscle when your physical efforts are more directed and specified for your goals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I could have told you that would happen.
    But I have a physically demanding job. Not as much as Obs. But I’m constantly moving or carrying heavy shit on a daily bases. I have to have recovery time. That’s why I have to go to the gym early in the morning. I’m too beat after work. But I feel bad if I miss a training day even though I’m sure it’s needed.
    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    well I feel for you. I owned a contracting company for a lot of years. putting in a hard laborous day for 10+ hours both physically and mentally takes its toll. bout the only physical thing you want to do after work is lift a beer.
    much easier and efficient to put on muscle when your physical efforts are more directed and specified for your goals
    You guys keep reminding me how much I dont wanna do what I gotta do.

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