What are some signs that test e is legit?

[Arcânn]

I run 50+mg Dbol all the time and don't need to run an AI, even stacked with over a gram of test. its totally person dependent.

Okay, that's one person haha. That's insane though.

[GearHeaded]

Okay, that's one person haha. That's insane though.

well it only seems insane because you've been conditioned by Internet forums advocating AI use.. you may think that driving a car without a seat belt is insane too, but there were decades of time when cars were not even built with seat belts.

Plenty of guys ran lots of Dbol without an AI because they hadn't even been invented yet. Test and Dbol with no AI was perfectly acceptable back in the 60s, 70s and even the 80s (again because there were no AI's).

of course an AI can be a beneficial 'tool' depending on the context and circumstances. buy guys ran AAS for decades without AI's and did just fine
(and these same guys would chew on Dbols all day and take a half a bottle pre workout)

[KennyJ]

well it only seems insane because you've been conditioned by Internet forums advocating AI use.. you may think that driving a car without a seat belt is insane too, but there were decades of time when cars were not even built with seat belts.

Plenty of guys ran lots of Dbol without an AI because they hadn't even been invented yet. Test and Dbol with no AI was perfectly acceptable back in the 60s, 70s and even the 80s (again because there were no AI's).

of course an AI can be a beneficial 'tool' depending on the context and circumstances. buy guys ran AAS for decades without AI's and did just fine
(and these same guys would chew on Dbols all day and take a half a bottle pre workout)

When exactly did AI's become such a must for so many people from day 1 of a cycle?

I don't seem to remember them being so popular even 10 years ago when I did a couple of small cycles. They may have already been very popular then but I don't remember it

[GearHeaded]

When exactly did AI's become such a must for so many people from day 1 of a cycle?

I don't seem to remember them being so popular even 10 years ago when I did a couple of small cycles. They may have already been very popular then but I don't remember it

When all the UGLs started producing them. then all the reps and dealers had another product to push on people as 'mandatory' part of a cycle. The AI's are more expensive then the steroids . big time profit margins there. plenty of forum 'gurus' over the years that made this idea popular are reps for various UGLs .

the idea of purchasing everything you need, and don't need, for a cycle has been pushed for years on forums.. you need to buy all your steroids, AI's, hcg, pct, and your anti prolactins, at the same time you buy your first steroid stack. wow how convenient of a sales pitch.
that become popular when UGLs started carrying all this stuff.


note: having said all that , again I'm still a fan of AI's when its needed and in the right context. theres plenty of estrogen sensitive guys out there that benefit from their use

[Old Duffer]

I run 50+mg Dbol all the time and don't need to run an AI, even stacked with over a gram of test. its totally person dependent.

Okay, that's one person haha. That's insane though.

Not insane. Just genetically 'gifted' :-)

Lucky too lol!

[GearHeaded]

Not insane. Just genetically 'gifted' :-)

Lucky too lol!

well 8 years ago a gram of test and 50 Dbol would of left me severely bloated, red swollen face, super high blood pressure, and retaining lots of water and other estrogenic sides.
my body back then just didn't know what to do or how to handle that much estrogen. . . my "genetics'' have changed over time. that exact dosage now will not have those effects. my blood pressure will remain fine. bloat is minimal. I just get stronger in the gym.
I can now run 2 grams of test without an AI.

perhaps over time pushing the upper limits of estrogen my body has just adapted .. gear usage is just like training, you have to push the envelopes sometimes and cause new stressor and force your body to have to change and adapt.
if you never play with high levels of estrogen on test/dbol cycles, you'll never acclimate to that.

its like starting off training from day one using lifting straps. sure they can help , but over time if you don't allow your grip to have to adapt it will never get stronger.

[KennyJ]

well 8 years ago a gram of test and 50 Dbol would of left me severely bloated, red swollen face, super high blood pressure, and retaining lots of water and other estrogenic sides.
my body back then just didn't know what to do or how to handle that much estrogen. . . my "genetics'' have changed over time. that exact dosage now will not have those effects. my blood pressure will remain fine. bloat is minimal. I just get stronger in the gym.
I can now run 2 grams of test without an AI.

perhaps over time pushing the upper limits of estrogen my body has just adapted .. gear usage is just like training, you have to push the envelopes sometimes and cause new stressor and force your body to have to change and adapt.
if you never play with high levels of estrogen on test/dbol cycles, you'll never acclimate to that.

its like starting off training from day one using lifting straps. sure they can help , but over time if you don't allow your grip to have to adapt it will never get stronger.

This reminds me of a baseball pitcher. If a pitcher is in college or the minor leagues and trying to work his way to MLB. When he trains or pitches, if he never pushes himself to progressively throw harder, his velocity will never increase but if he throws harder and harder while training then his average velocity should improve until he reaches his full potential. I don't know why but this is what comes to mind when I think about what you're explaining.

[Old Duffer]

well 8 years ago a gram of test and 50 Dbol would of left me severely bloated, red swollen face, super high blood pressure, and retaining lots of water and other estrogenic sides.
my body back then just didn't know what to do or how to handle that much estrogen. . . my "genetics'' have changed over time. that exact dosage now will not have those effects. my blood pressure will remain fine. bloat is minimal. I just get stronger in the gym.
I can now run 2 grams of test without an AI.

perhaps over time pushing the upper limits of estrogen my body has just adapted .. gear usage is just like training, you have to push the envelopes sometimes and cause new stressor and force your body to have to change and adapt.
if you never play with high levels of estrogen on test/dbol cycles, you'll never acclimate to that.

its like starting off training from day one using lifting straps. sure they can help , but over time if you don't allow your grip to have to adapt it will never get stronger.

Just another incredible response, complete with personal data. Thanx yet again.

This topic addresses one of the zillion things I've wondered about. In the most simple, I presumed the ability to run higher n higher doses was due to the increase of body mass. Never occurred to me that the body adapts, becomes more efficient at utilizing the higher doses.

Makes sense. After all, this whole journey is about forcing the body to adapt!

[KennyJ]

Just another incredible response, complete with personal data. Thanx yet again.

This topic addresses one of the zillion things I've wondered about. In the most simple, I presumed the ability to run higher n higher doses was due to the increase of body mass. Never occurred to me that the body adapts, becomes more efficient at utilizing the higher doses.

Makes sense. After all, this whole journey is about forcing the body to adapt!

Duff, are you trying to say GH has a little bit of knowledge?