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    Keep in mind OP , that the numbers guys achieve and the way they feel on TRT is going to be different for you.. being low T and then getting on TRT long term shuts guys down. they have to have substantial test numbers from their exogenous test in order to function well.

    You on the other hand, IF you have naturally good endogenous test levels, and if your just jumping on a light cycle for say 7 weeks would not need as high a dosage as you would if you were an actual TRT patient. This is because when you start (lets say its 100mg of test) your cycle you won't be "shut down". you'll have both the endogenous test and exogenous test combined (a guy on TRT is dependent on only what he injects).
    depending on what other drugs you run , this combined natty and exogenous test may carry you through for a good 5-8 weeks.

    your not really looking for optimal ng/dl total levels of test for your cycle.. you just need a bit extra exogenous test in there to provide you with some estrogen and dht conversion which will likely fall off as you get into your cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Keep in mind OP , that the numbers guys achieve and the way they feel on TRT is going to be different for you.. being low T and then getting on TRT long term shuts guys down. they have to have substantial test numbers from their exogenous test in order to function well.

    You on the other hand, IF you have naturally good endogenous test levels, and if your just jumping on a light cycle for say 7 weeks would not need as high a dosage as you would if you were an actual TRT patient. This is because when you start (lets say its 100mg of test) your cycle you won't be "shut down". you'll have both the endogenous test and exogenous test combined (a guy on TRT is dependent on only what he injects).
    depending on what other drugs you run , this combined natty and exogenous test may carry you through for a good 5-8 weeks.

    your not really looking for optimal ng/dl total levels of test for your cycle.. you just need a bit extra exogenous test in there to provide you with some estrogen and dht conversion which will likely fall off as you get into your cycle
    I heard something the other day that contradicts what I have heard for some time...
    Using AAS even just one time will likely not permanently shut you down forever and its an exaggerated claim to keep people off of the gear use but if anyone does a proper PTC after TRT or running actual heavier cycles they will most likely have their lowish test function return within some time since the body will return back to the normal low range as it heals? Any thoughts? Can your body begin to produce low test after stopping completely and you won't be in permanent shutdown forever?

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    Thanks for the replies. Very informative reading. I totally understand the reasoning behind low and high test dosages. I have just been looking through my most recent blood test results and the 9-32 reading I was 13 making me as I'd guess low end normal free testosterone meaning I'd need a slightly higher test dosage administered. I'll be taking tbol later with the cypionate too

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I heard something the other day that contradicts what I have heard for some time...
    Using AAS even just one time will likely not permanently shut you down forever and its an exaggerated claim to keep people off of the gear use but if anyone does a proper PTC after TRT or running actual heavier cycles they will most likely have their lowish test function return within some time since the body will return back to the normal low range as it heals? Any thoughts? Can your body begin to produce low test after stopping completely and you won't be in permanent shutdown forever?
    heck you can run gear nearly year round for 15 years straight and still recover just fine (look at Dave Palumbo).. you can run multiple cycles per year and not bother with PCT and be just fine.
    the reason PCT is so popular is mainly so guys can run gear, recover as soon as possible so that they can get back on the gear sooner. but you could decide to not do pct and you still have a good chance of recovering .


    BUT, if your on TRT to begin with , the assumption here is that the doc put you on TRT for the reason that you don't produce enough test to begin with. so NO , your not going to cycle, do trt etc. and then one day recover natty optimal test levels. you were shot to begin with.
    guys that are on TRT are indefinitely shut down . guys that are not on TRT and just cycle when they want are not indefinitely shut down (though perhaps one day they may be)

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