Quote Originally Posted by Murphman9 View Post
I’ve been reading up on the amount of protein; I’ve always thought more was better but I’ve been reading information to the contrary. Believe it or not, I’ve scaled it back- was trying to get over 400 a day. I’ll keep thinking on that.

As far as my stats, the only one I’m not 100% sure on is body fat. I ordered some calipers yesterday. I’m definitely not thin and I’d say I’m on the muscular side. 48” chest, 17.5 “ biceps- vascular in the lower arms and getting some in my upper arms. My upper row of abs are starting to show. Still have love handles and that’s what I really want to ditch.
That description doesn't sound like 20% body fat. I get you want to start as soon as possible but from your initial posts you should take a few steps first in order to maximize the potential for succes.

(1) Post your diet in the nutrition section for review. Just by looking at your macro split alone there is room for improvement. Most obvious standout is protein intake is way too execsssive.

(2) Do more research on HGH as it's the most faked compound ever. Perhaps post pictures in the picture thread and someone can identify if it's fake. No sense in continuing to pin snake oil for ever 3months with false expectations. If it's real, there's an argument to scale down the IU, saving you money.

(3) Get full panel bloodwork done - this is extremely important - there's a sticky of what you want - most of which you have to go out of your way to request from your doctor or better yet order privately. Your age + cycle history should put TRT on your radar going forward. Depending on results, it may be in your best interest to get in front of your health and start TRT.

(4) More accurately determine your body composition which allow to accurately create a meal plan. This will also allow you to set realistic goals and then track them weekly. This part is important because when people don't have realistic goals they fall into a trap of blaming nutrition, fake gear, etc and they want to use more gear rather than realizing what they wanted in the first place happens over multiple cycles.

For example, it's not physically possible for you to go from 20->10% in 12 weeks AND keep the same amount of muscle mass, even if your bathtub was full of steroids it still won't happen. (not that I believe you are 20% BF to begin with from your rough description). Losing the weight alone is gonna you at close to 210ish lbs at your height it won't look healthy. (always think marathon not sprint).

I personally think you don't need 2 steroids + clean + t3 + HGh to reach your goals. Losing weight is nutrition first and foremost the gear is the last 5% of the equation. The steroids don't really burn fat, they just help maintain muscle mass in a caloric deficit.