Hcg importance

[Youthful55guy]

I started try about a year ago with an online clinic...part of their protocol was 1/2 of a CC of HCG twice a week....I switched to a local clinic and they said that's a waste and said it was only if I was going to stop TRT....they put me on 4 mg of finasteride a week....my balls seem to be shrinking...could use some advice.....

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HCG is optional, but I am a proponent of its use because it replaces the LH signal that is lost when you are on TRT. I personally use about 1000 IU per week in split doses, which ends up costing me about $700 per year for Pregnyl brand HCG from my local pharmacy (I have a script). The testicles are not the only glands that have LH receptors. The seminal vesicles and Cowper's gland also have LH receptors. I'm not sure about the prostate, but it wouldn't surprise me. The seminal vesicles make about 50-60% of the volume of your ejaculate, so this is probably why guys report their loads drying up after years of TRT with out HCG.

Regarding 4 mg of finasteride a week, that's an odd dose considering the half life for the drug is about 4 hours. Most protocols call for daily dosing, usually starting at 1 mg per day. It comes in 1 and 5 mg tablets. However, I have had great success in dissolving 5 mg tables into 2 mL of vodka and dispensing low daily doses via drops in my drinking water. After numerous experiments, I've established that 1 drop contains 0.06 mg of finasteride. I'm still working on optimal dosing.

[marklewis68]

HCG is optional, but I am a proponent of its use because it replaces the LH signal that is lost when you are on TRT. I personally use about 1000 IU per week in split doses, which ends up costing me about $700 per year for Pregnyl brand HCG from my local pharmacy (I have a script). The testicles are not the only glands that have LH receptors. The seminal vesicles and Cowper's gland also have LH receptors. I'm not sure about the prostate, but it wouldn't surprise me. The seminal vesicles make about 50-60% of the volume of your ejaculate, so this is probably why guys report their loads drying up after years of TRT with out HCG.

Regarding 4 mg of finasteride a week, that's an odd dose considering the half life for the drug is about 4 hours. Most protocols call for daily dosing, usually starting at 1 mg per day. It comes in 1 and 5 mg tablets. However, I have had great success in dissolving 5 mg tables into 2 mL of vodka and dispensing low daily doses via drops in my drinking water. After numerous experiments, I've established that 1 drop contains 0.06 mg of finasteride. I'm still working on optimal dosing.

What is the finasteride for??? And the send me 5mg tabs and I'm to take 1/4 of a tablet 3x per week...so I was rounding dosage.

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[Youthful55guy]

What is the finasteride for??? And the send me 5mg tabs and I'm to take 1/4 of a tablet 3x per week...so I was rounding dosage.

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Finasteride blocks the conversion of T to DHT. For guys that are high in DHT (as I am), this can be beneficial to helping to prevent BHP and also to slow down erythropoiesis, which are two of the main side-effects of TRT (particularly at doses over 100 mg T-cyp per week).

Personally, I'd go with my vodka/eye dropper method for daily dosing to ensure a steady supply of this quickly metabolized drug. I have at least 1 lab showing that it is very effective. BTW, at 1/4 tablet 3X per week, your daily finasteride dose come out to 0.18mg/day, which would be about 3 drops per day using my method. For a listing of supplies, see the post I made in the stickies for "Best Practices in TRT". In the section for E2 control, I describe a similar method for dispensing low dose anastrozole. There are links to where you can purchase the supplies you need (bottles, eyedroppers, etc.). Not that the dilution is a little different than the posted anastrozole protocol. With Finasteride, I use 5 mg diluted with 2 mL of vodka (not 1.5 mL as with anastrozole).

[kelkel]

What is the finasteride for??? And the send me 5mg tabs and I'm to take 1/4 of a tablet 3x per week...so I was rounding dosage.

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If you don't have bph or blood issues I would not take Finasteride. It's a bit aggressive without an established need, imho.

[Youthful55guy]

If you don't have bph or blood issues I would not take Finasteride. It's a bit aggressive without an established need, imho.

I agree. You need DHT labs once you are on a stable TRT protocol to determine if your DHT is indeed out of range. If you start it from the get go, you'll never know if it was actually needed. Kel is correct, a little goes a long way, and again, you need DHT labs after you start to zero in on the correct dosage. You don't want DHT to go too low (unless you need to for BHP) because it can wreak havoc on your libido. Also, you need to watch E2 while on Finasteride because you are blocking a dead end metabolic pathway for T excretion, so there's a build up of T, and that will drive more conversion to E2.

Finally, also remember that while on finasteride, and for 4 weeks after discontinuation, you are not eligible for blood donations. Finasteride is HIGHLY teratogenic to developing male fetuses. You can really mess up their sexual development with very low exposure to the drug.