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    Tren is 5x more ANDROGENIC then testosterone . lot of guys are sensitive to androgens and androgens can mess with your CNS and mentally.
    500mg of Tren is equal to 2500mg of test per week in regards to androgen load. so if your mentally sensitive to androgens then your going to be much better off not running them and running anabolics instead.. things like Primo, Var, Winstrol, etc.. are anabolic steroids (things like Test, Halo, Tren, etc. are androgenic steroids) and will have little mental side effects as their primary purpose is just protein synthesis and muscle building (which is not going to be felt mentally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Tren is 5x more ANDROGENIC then testosterone . lot of guys are sensitive to androgens and androgens can mess with your CNS and mentally.
    500mg of Tren is equal to 2500mg of test per week in regards to androgen load. so if your mentally sensitive to androgens then your going to be much better off not running them and running anabolics instead.. things like Primo, Var, Winstrol, etc.. are anabolic steroids (things like Test, Halo, Tren, etc. are androgenic steroids) and will have little mental side effects as their primary purpose is just protein synthesis and muscle building (which is not going to be felt mentally)
    if anything from the 7 weeks on this tren i have leaned out if anything havent built much muscle so now i should be bulking and Primo, Var, Winstrol ect are cutting steroids as far as i know?

    i have found this on deca - Deca is only slightly stronger than Testosterone where anabolism is concerned, with a strength rating of 125. By comparison, Testosterone’s anabolic strength rating is 100. However, it possesses a very low androgenic rating of 37, making it favorable for those who are either sensitive to or with to avoid androgenic side effects

    so would a cycle of test and deca be a good choice do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morton30 View Post
    if anything from the 7 weeks on this tren i have leaned out if anything havent built much muscle so now i should be bulking and Primo, Var, Winstrol ect are cutting steroids as far as i know?

    i have found this on deca - Deca is only slightly stronger than Testosterone where anabolism is concerned, with a strength rating of 125. By comparison, Testosterone’s anabolic strength rating is 100. However, it possesses a very low androgenic rating of 37, making it favorable for those who are either sensitive to or with to avoid androgenic side effects

    so would a cycle of test and deca be a good choice do you think?
    Cutting and Bulking is determined by nutrition and training, not the drugs. You can cut or bulk on anything.

    Create a short term and long term plan (goals) with accountability checks along the way. Research the science, known side effects, cost from your source (if a factor), etc of the different compounds. If you want to be successful you need to understand why to choose a certain compound, why the dose, and understand what you're injecting in your body, otherwise you are wasting your time and money. Test + Deca is a cookie cutter bulking combination but that doesn't necessarily mean it's correct for you.

    Given the amount of problems you had on Tren I would strongly advise more time on the Education and cycle when more prepared with a stronger comprehension of the gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morton30 View Post
    if anything from the 7 weeks on this tren i have leaned out if anything havent built much muscle so now i should be bulking and Primo, Var, Winstrol ect are cutting steroids as far as i know?

    i have found this on deca - Deca is only slightly stronger than Testosterone where anabolism is concerned, with a strength rating of 125. By comparison, Testosterone’s anabolic strength rating is 100. However, it possesses a very low androgenic rating of 37, making it favorable for those who are either sensitive to or with to avoid androgenic side effects

    so would a cycle of test and deca be a good choice do you think?
    you were just trying to bulk on tren . and its doesn't get any more "cutting steroids" then tren . but theres really no such thing as a "cutting steroid" . there are only

    Androgenic Steroids
    Anabolic Steroids
    DHT Steroids
    Progestin Steroids
    Nandrolone Steroids
    Estrogenic Steroids
    Water retentive Steroids
    Class 1 Steroids
    Class 2 Steroids
    etc..

    but in the study of the pharmacology of steroids, you will never find such terms as "bulking Steroids " or "cutting Steroids " . thats all up to you and how you decide to use them in regards to diet and training .

    Arnold Schwarznegger bulked just fine on Primobolan (never ran testosterone), even though you may think its a "cutting steroid"


    and YES . Deca is a great "anabolic Steroid" . it can be used for bulking or cutting or recomp or lots of other things. but its likely not going to cause you androgenic sides like tren . but it still may cause progestin based sides being it is a progestin derived drug
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