29 year old and making the jump to blast/cruise/TRT

[CAADsprint]

Last test post cycle BUT it was taken right after prednisone use. I tried educating my doctor that the prednisone would effect my levels but the only way I could get a referral for an endo was if I took this test for him. In short my levels were "normal" and I had to fight tooth and nail to get the referral for the endo. It's things like these that are forcing me to move out of the Midwest and into Massachusetts. Over there they are much more lenient and don't mind putting the health decisions into the patient. My doctor there supported me seeing an endocrinologist and wanted to experiment with HRT post alcoholism but again I passed with flying colors, all of that testing years ago happened WWWAAAYYY before I even know what HRT was.

Testing post cycle, post PCT but within 48 hours of a prednisone blast
Total 688
Free 97

My free is low compared to prior blood work but I can't tell if it's from cycle use or the prednisone.

Before any cycling
Total 940ish
Free 290ish+ in the high 200s.

My free was in fact above the range you are reading that right.

Based on these results on my own person that is a substantial drop. But I can't tell, again, if the prednisone use messed with my levels or if that's post cycle damage.

Regardless of my levels I'm taking TRT for my OP mentioned reasons. I have zero idea what my levels were pre Lyme disease but I have never been able to recover my original strength and size, period.

I can try to order another test, my doctor is an IDIOT he won't understand why I want another and my endo appointment is 5/22/19. Keep in mind I might be back in Massachusetts (thank god)before that date.

I don't know if my pre Lyme body came from my genetics (pretty sure it did)or if my blood work pre cycle had anything to do with it either. Non the less it doesn't matter anymore I'm living in the present.

[Ephemeral]

Last test post cycle BUT it was taken right after prednisone use. I tried educating my doctor that the prednisone would effect my levels but the only way I could get a referral for an endo was if I took this test for him. In short my levels were "normal" and I had to fight tooth and nail to get the referral for the endo. It's things like these that are forcing me to move out of the Midwest and into Massachusetts. Over there they are much more lenient and don't mind putting the health decisions into the patient. My doctor there supported me seeing an endocrinologist and wanted to experiment with HRT post alcoholism but again I passed with flying colors, all of that testing years ago happened WWWAAAYYY before I even know what HRT was.

Testing post cycle, post PCT but within 48 hours of a prednisone blast
Total 688
Free 97

My free is low compared to prior blood work but I can't tell if it's from cycle use or the prednisone.

Before any cycling
Total 940ish
Free 290ish+ in the high 200s.

My free was in fact above the range you are reading that right.

Based on these results on my own person that is a substantial drop. But I can't tell, again, if the prednisone use messed with my levels or if that's post cycle damage.

Regardless of my levels I'm taking TRT for my OP mentioned reasons. I have zero idea what my levels were pre Lyme disease but I have never been able to recover my original strength and size, period.

I can try to order another test, my doctor is an IDIOT he won't understand why I want another and my endo appointment is 5/22/19. Keep in mind I might be back in Massachusetts (thank god)before that date.

I don't know if my pre Lyme body came from my genetics (pretty sure it did)or if my blood work pre cycle had anything to do with it either. Non the less it doesn't matter anymore I'm living in the present.

If u just finished PCT then quite possibly u haven't fully recovered yet, and your lower numbers don't indicate any damage. Full recovery can take a lot longer. Also, always include ranges because 688 in a 300-1200 range is not the same as in a 200-900 range. I doubt TRT alone would help u, the blasting part obviously would, but u can't blast all the time due to health risks, so assuming u recover fine with PCT u could just cycle and reevaluate later. It might not be as effective as blast and cruise, but safer.

[Test Monsterone]

If u just finished PCT then quite possibly u haven't fully recovered yet, and your lower numbers don't indicate any damage. Full recovery can take a lot longer. Also, always include ranges because 688 in a 300-1200 range is not the same as in a 200-900 range. I doubt TRT alone would help u, the blasting part obviously would, but u can't blast all the time due to health risks, so assuming u recover fine with PCT u could just cycle and reevaluate later. It might not be as effective as blast and cruise, but safer.

I agree - I was going to say the same thing; he probably hasn't recovered fully. I would wait 6 months - 1 year before I would assess the "Damage" done to the HPTA. About blasting and cruising, I found that after my initial cycle, I returned to what I used to look like before the cycle (and that's on TRT). Of course if I never reached my genetic potential before beginning TRT/steroids, then I would probably have kept more.

[DeeCee112]

You've been given some great advice here but it seems like you've already made your mind up man. I don't know much about TRT but here's my two cents:

Your problem is with strength and body composition and how you did not maintain gains from your first cycle.

Your solution is to commit to a lifetime of self administered endogenous testosterone however bloodwork confirms you should have had and still have sufficient levels of test to achieve your goals.

Again, not an expert here but your problem may not get solved with this solution and the side effects and repercussions are not to be taken lightly. There are many other things to check or improve before resorting to this:

Diet and Nutrition
Vitamin mineral ect deficiencies
Training regimens
First cycle and PCT quality
Length of time after cycle to fully recover before assessing low t forever
Mental Health issues to address (depression, anxiety, excessive stress ect)

If the above are issues you can jam all the test you want but you won't get where you want anyway. I'd listen to the dudes on TRT here. Goodluck

[CAADsprint]

Yeah I feel it man I really do but without trying to over explain even at my peak on my first cycle I didn't hit my physique pre lyme disease. When it hit my weight went from 180ish pounds with visible veins on my obliques and abs (12%-16% BF??) And dropped to 130 pounds in the matter of two months. Currently I'm 200ish but uhh... no visible vessels on my abs lol. I cant explain nor do I know what the type of damage that happened and I think unless I intensely study on lyme and revisit my infectious disease doc, which I should at this point I cant put a finger on it.

I'll be cycling in the next coming months and am curious what my pre cycle bloodwork will look like. I feel like this thread has been exhausted, thanks everyone for your input, opinions and help. This is a tough decision and the comments won't go unforgotten