guys now days equate getting some water retention and bloat to getting diagnosed with cancer . lol come on .

must be the instagram world we live in. but back in the day bodybuilders would go back after a show and hide in their caves and get bloated and huge as fuck in order to put on some more size. but today everyone has to take a selfie for the gram every other day and look lean and shredded year round.
no wonder you guys all weigh like 150 pounds and stay small all year. too worried about bloat and abs. you'll never get big that way.

however, having said that. yes you can get plenty big without Test and there are better drugs. but you still may benefit from some other sort of compound that is water retentive, estrogenic, and causes bloat like test does (maybe Dbol).
these 'negative' sides are actually beneficial for muscle growth a lot of the time