7 week cut

[Octaneforce]

You shouldnt need tren for a second cycle. Test, mast, and an oral should be plenty. Are you on trt?

[Windex]

You shouldnt need tren for a second cycle. Test, mast, and an oral should be plenty. Are you on trt?

Good catch

[Jangles1]

You shouldnt need tren for a second cycle. Test, mast, and an oral should be plenty. Are you on trt?

No TRT and this is my third cycle. Sticking with the Tren. Less than 200mg a week is. Good safe dose. 1mg Caber taken throughout with Adex!

[GearHeaded]

No TRT and this is my third cycle. Sticking with the Tren. Less than 200mg a week is. Good safe dose. 1mg Caber taken throughout with Adex!

just curious what you would want to take the Adex for ? your only running 150mg a week of test , tren does not aromatize, and Mast works as an anti estrogen.
you'd hate to take the Adex when its not needed, get your E levels way too low and hinder your gains, not lose as much body fat (as estrogen plays a role in this) and lose muscle because your IGF levels plummet (as E plays a role IGF production).. now sure Tren will raise IGF levels but it does this through the Estrogen mechanism .

with only 150mg of test per week and no other compounds that aromatize and Mast that has anti estrogen effects, your going to want to get the most estrogen you can out of that low of dose of test , NOT block it.

[Test Monsterone]

just curious what you would want to take the Adex for ? your only running 150mg a week of test , tren does not aromatize, and Mast works as an anti estrogen.
you'd hate to take the Adex when its not needed, get your E levels way too low and hinder your gains, not lose as much body fat (as estrogen plays a role in this) and lose muscle because your IGF levels plummet (as E plays a role IGF production).. now sure Tren will raise IGF levels but it does this through the Estrogen mechanism .

with only 150mg of test per week and no other compounds that aromatize and Mast that has anti estrogen effects, your going to want to get the most estrogen you can out of that low of dose of test , NOT block it.

Gear, check out this video by Dr. Thomas O'Connor, AKA "The Anabolic Doc"; it should start at 8:23.

https://youtu.be/dy3guBAFSjk?t=503


In the video it says that while EQ on it's own has about half the estrogenic effects of regular testosterone, when it is combined with testosterone, it can amplify estrogenic effects. I can't comment on whether or not this is true as I haven't tried EQ yet, but it's on my short list.


I never knew about estrogen's role in creating IGF... my last bloodwork where my estrogen was around 75 my IGF was significantly higher than usual.