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    I also don’t subscribe to changes in definitions of words. What I believe something is doesn’t have to match any new implied meaning. For example I’m 100% against gay marriage. Not in any offensive way in fact they should have equal rights but historical definition of marriage is man and women. So they should call it what it is something different. If this offends someone it’s their issue not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I also don’t subscribe to changes in definitions of words. What I believe something is doesn’t have to match any new implied meaning. For example I’m 100% against gay marriage. Not in any offensive way in fact they should have equal rights but historical definition of marriage is man and women. So they should call it what it is something different. If this offends someone it’s their issue not mine.
    Agreed fully!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I also don’t subscribe to changes in definitions of words. What I believe something is doesn’t have to match any new implied meaning. For example I’m 100% against gay marriage. Not in any offensive way in fact they should have equal rights but historical definition of marriage is man and women. So they should call it what it is something different. If this offends someone it’s their issue not mine.
    Are you talking about changes to words in your lifetime or throughout humanity? Considering how many words throughout history in the last few hundred years that have changed I would love to hear you speak.

    Taking the above into account I assume you do not mean gay marriage (as the original meaning of gay has nothing to do with today's meaning) but same-sex marriage.

    To be clear, because it might not be, I'm an not being passive aggressive here I am truly fascinated how you function in society with this stance and how anyone is able to comprehend what you are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Are you talking about changes to words in your lifetime or throughout humanity? Considering how many words throughout history in the last few hundred years that have changed I would love to hear you speak.

    Taking the above into account I assume you do not mean gay marriage (as the original meaning of gay has nothing to do with today's meaning) but same-sex marriage.

    To be clear, because it might not be, I'm an not being passive aggressive here I am truly fascinated how you function in society with this stance and how anyone is able to comprehend what you are saying.
    You are talking about evolution of language and progressing etymology.

    He is talking about the redefining of a sacred institution as old as mankind. Its like everything else today, "tolerance" is forced down peoples throats until nothing is sacred or has any real meaning.

    People can believe whatever they want. Odds are I wont accept them once they start shitting on things I hold sacred. I don't ask that they accept me either.

    This all ties back to that honor thing I flap my fingers about. My peers are people with mutual core beliefs. It creates an honor system and people hold different ranks on this system.

    For instance, an old man who has helped thousands, worked his ass off, raised a good family, built hundreds of homes, became an absolute master of his craft, stood firm on his beliefs, tended thousands of cattle, never backed down, rittled his body with scars, loved one woman and buried her...

    Well, that man will get an ear any time he says a word. I would be honored to carry him to his grave with utmost dignity, because I know where he stood without asking. He lived a life so straight forward by his deeds that I wont question his honor.

    On the other end of the spectrum:

    A feminine male that throws a fit when he is not allowed into certain peer groups... Well, what he says really doesn't mean shit because we dont share core beliefs. Anything that person says I will most likely not hear. He will say what he says in direct natural violation of his Y chromosome and that pretty much leaves me deaf to him.

    He can call me a chauvanistic bigot and I will call him a queer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    You are talking about evolution of language and progressing etymology.

    He is talking about the redefining of a sacred institution as old as mankind. Its like everything else today, "tolerance" is forced down peoples throats until nothing is sacred or has any real meaning.

    People can believe whatever they want. Odds are I wont accept them once they start shitting on things I hold sacred. I don't ask that they accept me either.

    This all ties back to that honor thing I flap my fingers about. My peers are people with mutual core beliefs. It creates an honor system and people hold different ranks on this system.

    For instance, an old man who has helped thousands, worked his ass off, raised a good family, built hundreds of homes, became an absolute master of his craft, stood firm on his beliefs, tended thousands of cattle, never backed down, rittled his body with scars, loved one woman and buried her...

    Well, that man will get an ear any time he says a word. I would be honored to carry him to his grave with utmost dignity, because I know where he stood without asking. He lived a life so straight forward by his deeds that I wont question his honor.

    On the other end of the spectrum:

    A feminine male that throws a fit when he is not allowed into certain peer groups... Well, what he says really doesn't mean shit because we dont share core beliefs. Anything that person says I will most likely not hear. He will say what he says in direct natural violation of his Y chromosome and that pretty much leaves me deaf to him.

    He can call me a chauvanistic bigot and I will call him a queer.

    Man you are a beast and one smart mofo lol. I strive to be the first guy you mentioned as it is really the only way to live in my opinion. I still believe in a mans word and always doing the right thing. My grandpa rest his heart (died when I was 13 and I still miss him every damn day) taught me right

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    Quote Originally Posted by timetolift5 View Post
    Man you are a beast and one smart mofo lol. I strive to be the first guy you mentioned as it is really the only way to live in my opinion. I still believe in a mans word and always doing the right thing. My grandpa rest his heart (died when I was 13 and I still miss him every damn day) taught me right
    Thanks man and I hope I am the first guy too minus burying my spouse.
    I wish you luck on your journey.

    There is a simple undeniable fact about some men I have met that were simply 10x the man a liberal or anyone whining about being discriminated against could ever dream of being.

    Those who argue that fact never met one of the few me who trained horses for what was the last US horse cavalry unit in the Philippines and killed more men and saw more men die than few can claim. They never talked to a man who walked straight through hell and was successful afterward because he held himself responsible rather than blaming a dumbass label like ptsd, adhd, depression, anxiety, or blaming others for his failures.

    Any man that thinks he is a victim of something is not and never will be a man in my eyes.

    I been through some serious shit but I put myself in and took myself out of those situations. If someone fucked me over, I am the one that gave them the opportunity. I aint a victim of shit until I am dead.

    Excuses are for children that aren't responsible for their own plight.

    I could go on forever telling you things I am sure ypu already know, but the people reading this will think I am an ass if they havent lived it, just as you said.

    Would love to hear someone tell me how a homo living in the suburbs that cant change a tire measures up to the first guy I spoke of. Yet we are expected to allow that little pussy shit on an institution that many generations held sacred.

    The only way someone can allow it as normal is if the really dont have any true convictions. They just float the breeze and let what may come into their open mind, as they watch morality disappear and human beings forget the basic facts of life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post

    This all ties back to that honor thing I flap my fingers about.

    For instance, an old man who has helped thousands, worked his ass off, raised a good family, built hundreds of homes, became an absolute master of his craft, stood firm on his beliefs, tended thousands of cattle, never backed down, rittled his body with scars, loved one woman and buried her...

    Well, that man will get an ear any time he says a word.

    Old? Yep, 60.
    Worked his ass off? Yep, easily.
    Helped 1,000's? Yep, probably over 10,000 spanning over the years.
    Master of his craft? Yep, x2 for me.
    Loved one woman (and has stayed married to her)? Yep. She will bury me however, I pray to God.
    Stands by his beliefs? Fucking A, yes.
    Scars? Well inside, 2 joints replaced, a third coming sooner rather than later.

    But I live in California where as I believe you stated somewhere in a post that everyone can fit a watermelon up there asshole or something of the sort. That also automatically makes me a hippie and a liberal. Oh yeah, I live in the suburbs, I guess that classifies me as a homo as well? Or is it because I use triple A to have my tire changed if I have a flat?

    Because I didn't see eye to eye with you on another matter, that made me a scrawny faggot.

    I guess that I deserved those words because I didn't build homes or raise cattle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Old? Yep, 60.
    Worked his ass off? Yep, easily.
    Helped 1,000's? Yep, probably over 10,000 spanning over the years.
    Master of his craft? Yep, x2 for me.
    Loved one woman (and has stayed married to her)? Yep. She will bury me however, I pray to God.
    Stands by his beliefs? Fucking A, yes.
    Scars? Well inside, 2 joints replaced, a third coming sooner rather than later.

    But I live in California where as I believe you stated somewhere in a post that everyone can fit a watermelon up there asshole or something of the sort. That also automatically makes me a hippie and a liberal. Oh yeah, I live in the suburbs, I guess that classifies me as a homo as well? Or is it because I use triple A to have my tire changed if I have a flat?

    Because I didn't see eye to eye with you on another matter, that made me a scrawny faggot.

    I guess that I deserved those words because I didn't build homes or raise cattle?
    The message I got from obs was there are good men every where. Those that strive to be the one called on, the one that does the right thing no matter how hard it is, the one that would give you the shirt off his back and be cold rather than see you cold. But they are few and far between. Just cause you don’t change your own tire doesn’t make you any of the bad things. It’s who you are as a whole that defines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timetolift5 View Post
    The message I got from obs was there are good men every where. Those that strive to be the one called on, the one that does the right thing no matter how hard it is, the one that would give you the shirt off his back and be cold rather than see you cold. But they are few and far between. Just cause you don’t change your own tire doesn’t make you any of the bad things. It’s who you are as a whole that defines.
    I hear you. My bad, not feeling like myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    I hear you. My bad, not feeling like myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proximal View Post
    old? Yep, 60.
    Worked his ass off? Yep, easily.
    Helped 1,000's? Yep, probably over 10,000 spanning over the years.
    Master of his craft? Yep, x2 for me.
    Loved one woman (and has stayed married to her)? Yep. She will bury me however, i pray to god.
    Stands by his beliefs? Fucking a, yes.
    Scars? Well inside, 2 joints replaced, a third coming sooner rather than later.

    But i live in california where as i believe you stated somewhere in a post that everyone can fit a watermelon up there asshole or something of the sort. That also automatically makes me a hippie and a liberal. Oh yeah, i live in the suburbs, i guess that classifies me as a homo as well? Or is it because i use triple a to have my tire changed if i have a flat?

    Because i didn't see eye to eye with you on another matter, that made me a scrawny faggot.

    I guess that i deserved those words because i didn't build homes or raise cattle?
    wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    wtf?
    Wtf back. Read a few posts, if you’re still confused, well I can’t help you. Not in the mood. Please let it go, TY.

    Edit: emphasis on please and emphasis on thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Wtf back. Read a few posts, if you’re still confused, well I can’t help you. Not in the mood. Please let it go, TY.

    Edit: emphasis on please and emphasis on thank you.
    Oh I’m not confused. I read the entire string. Thank you and please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post

    But I live in California where as I believe you stated somewhere in a post that everyone can fit a watermelon up there asshole or something of the sort.
    Not bringing up the past but...

    I am a funny sonofabitch sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Not bringing up the past but...

    I am a funny sonofabitch sometimes.
    Yes you are.

    My wife commented on my arms a few weeks back & I recalled your post on why you wear your feelings on your sleeves. I don't know if you recall, but you said that your arms were too big & there was no room to fit your feelings under your sleeves (or something close to that effect). She thought it was as funny and as brilliant as I did.

    Bad day yesterday, miss her. Spoke with GH, think I'm dropping the clen. Have lost fat, but damn, haven't felt right since day one on the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proximal View Post
    Yes you are.

    My wife commented on my arms a few weeks back & I recalled your post on why you wear your feelings on your sleeves. I don't know if you recall, but you said that your arms were too big & there was no room to fit your feelings under your sleeves (or something close to that effect). She thought it was as funny and as brilliant as I did.

    Bad day yesterday, miss her. Spoke with GH, think I'm dropping the clen. Have lost fat, but damn, haven't felt right since day one on the stuff.
    Where is she?

    I cant use clen or t3.
    T3 sends me hypo and just makes me feel like all around shit and something about clen makes my heart flutter. I use ephedrine for keeping off water and dropping fat. This summer it wont be an issue.
    Working my ass off lately. Already getting hot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Not bringing up the past but...

    I am a funny sonofabitch sometimes.

    Give us fair warning please. I'd like to be prepared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    I also don’t subscribe to changes in definitions of words. What I believe something is doesn’t have to match any new implied meaning. For example I’m 100% against gay marriage. Not in any offensive way in fact they should have equal rights but historical definition of marriage is man and women. So they should call it what it is something different. If this offends someone it’s their issue not mine.
    whats interesting is how the definition of words are changed, or how the words being employed are actual contradictions. its really a propagandist strategy.

    exmples
    the word "Liberal" generally meant to be free and without restraints . but political 'Liberals' are quite the opposite,, they generally believe in suppressing the rights of most people and promote law after law after law (example, take away gun rights, and pass as many anti gun laws as is possible ... theres nothing "Liberal" about that . just the opposite really). liberal no longer means free or unrestrained. I see the word liberal and see suppression . but they want you to think they offer "freedom" .. its propaganda and a play on words.

    'gay marriage'. well thats really a contradiction in terms. theres no such thing. just like there is no such thing as a "round square". the definition of marriage excludes the idea that 'same sex' can be applied to it.. just like the very definition of something that is 'square' cannot by nature also be 'round' .. do gays have legal rights. sure. can they have legal rights so they can fill out a joint tax return, sure. but they cannot by the very nature of the definition be "married" . its an impossible contradiction . again, apply the word 'marriage' to a gay couple is like applying the description of circular or round to a square. its ludicrous.
    its propaganda by using such a ridiculous term and trying to brain wash society into thinking its a legitimate thing, when its not.

    'gay' . used to mean happy. so what better way to label something for change, that was originally looked at as disgusting and wholly immoral, then to label it as being "happy" . so what better way to change societies views as a whole then to take those that were considering sexually deviant and mentally ill, and call them "happy people" . surely their actions are ok now that we consider them "happy people" , ie, Gay .

    the towns local sexual deviant with strange sexual mental issues, is now simply the towns local 'gay/happy' guy.. thats all. theres nothing wrong with him, he's just happy
    I mean heck , if they are so damn happy and all , maybe the whole world should try being "gay" . hey guys, if your ever feeling down and depressed , just go suck a dic . you'll be happy in no time

    just another example of propaganda and how different words are used and changed over time to manipulate the way people think.



    note: regarding the 'gay' comments. I am only saying what society in the past used to think or say about "gay'' people ,, I'm NOT saying that I personally think its disgusting or immoral or sexually deviant or any of that. I'm just saying that it used to be looked upon like that.
    I personally do NOT give one crap about what people do sexually behind closed doors .. but it should pretty much stay behind closed doors. theres no reason to go announcing to the world what you do in the bedroom (like some guys do when they come out of the closet).. who cares. I mean heck do I go around announcing to the world publicly or to everyone I meet "hey I'm heterosexual and I love to fuck hot Latina pussy" .


    thats my political rant of the day .. I'm probably better of sticking to steroids

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