Blood pressure

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just a note regarding diet ..

umm yeah, sure eating very low or no carb, eating lots of salads, and eating lean clean meats, and eliminating calorie dense foods IS going to lower your blood pressure. the reason why is because your going to be getting depleted, smaller by the day, and lose muscle. of course your blood pressure goes down when your shrinking.

but when your eating dense foods, lots of carbs and packing on the muscle, and your growing.. guess what, you blood pressure is going to go up.
this is just biology and how things work.

so decde whats more important to you . eating salads and shrinking so that the numbers on a blood pressure meter go down . or eating big and running a bunch of gear and carbs and packing on muscle (with momentary blood pressure increase to go along with that)

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just a note regarding diet ..

umm yeah, sure eating very low or no carb, eating lots of salads, and eating lean clean meats, and eliminating calorie dense foods IS going to lower your blood pressure. the reason why is because your going to be getting depleted, smaller by the day, and lose muscle. of course your blood pressure goes down when your shrinking.

but when your eating dense foods, lots of carbs and packing on the muscle, and your growing.. guess what, you blood pressure is going to go up.
this is just biology and how things work.

so decde whats more important to you . eating salads and shrinking so that the numbers on a blood pressure meter go down . or eating big and running a bunch of gear and carbs and packing on muscle (with momentary blood pressure increase to go along with that)

I agree with you that if he wants to gain muscle he's going to have to put up with an increase in blood pressure. My last cycle I went up about 15-20 points in blood pressure at times. It wasn't clear from his first post what his intentions with his cycle were - to get ripped or gain mass. I will say though, that having elevated blood pressure is not good at any time. It is a side effect of steroids, diet, and lifting heavy shit, but it's not like it's every ok or healthy. A lot of people have strokes or heart attacks at the gym for a reason.

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I will say though, that having elevated blood pressure is not good at any time. It is a side effect of steroids, diet, and lifting heavy shit, but it's not like it's every ok or healthy. A lot of people have strokes or heart attacks at the gym for a reason.

according to this logic . doing cardio is not healthy then. as it elevates heart rate and blood pressure for up to several hours. BUT why has it been proven over the years that physical activity and exercise IS heart healthy.

its because this temporary and acute stress on the heart strengthens it and makes it healthier.

so I would disagree . acute elevations in heart rate and blood pressure are not only perfectly ok, they are beneficial..

again, the problem is when something becomes a chronic condition . not an accute one . like if your heart rate after cardio stayed elevated permanently at 130 bpm. but an acute elevated heart rate is a beneficial thing. and likewise, acute elevated blood pressure has its benefits and its purposes , as long as it does not stay that way chronically

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according to this logic . doing cardio is not healthy then. as it elevates heart rate and blood pressure for up to several hours. BUT why has it been proven over the years that physical activity and exercise IS heart healthy.

its because this temporary and acute stress on the heart strengthens it and makes it healthier.

so I would disagree . acute elevations in heart rate and blood pressure are not only perfectly ok, they are beneficial..

again, the problem is when something becomes a chronic condition . not an accute one . like if your heart rate after cardio stayed elevated permanently at 130 bpm. but an acute elevated heart rate is a beneficial thing. and likewise, acute elevated blood pressure has its benefits and its purposes , as long as it does not stay that way chronically

** I should have said that no weight lifting related increases in blood pressure are healthy**

Cardio is aerobic and weight lifting is not. Two completely different things. Holding your breathe during a squat puts an incredible amount of pressure on your heart and arteries. Same with bench press or anything else where you strain. I’m not talking about taking a jog and breathing at a steady rate.

Acute significant increases in blood pressure cause micro tears in the endothelial walls of the arteries which then become clogged with cholesterol and leads to artherosclerosis.

I know you’ll get more thumbs up than me but this is an inconvenient truth.

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Cardio is aerobic and weight lifting is not. Two completely different things. Holding your breathe during a squat puts an incredible amount of pressure on your heart and arteries. Same with bench press or anything else where you strain. I’m not talking about taking a jog and breathing at a steady rate.

Acute significant increases in blood pressure cause micro tears in the endothelial walls of the arteries which then become clogged with cholesterol and leads to artherosclerosis.

I know you’ll get more thumbs up than me but this is an inconvenient truth.

ok lets just go ahead and dismiss the weight lifting thing all together . lets say you ONLY do cardio . well cardio elevates your heart rate and your blood pressure during the time your doing it , up to several hours afterwards.

you said that ANY elevation in blood pressure is a bad thing (acute or chronic) . so are you saying that cardio is bad for you then being it elevates blood pressure ? that most the studies on exercise and heart health are wrong ? I mean if ANY elevation in blood pressure is bad, then cardio must be bad too , right ?


in regards to the weight lifting .. does weight lifting cause bodily stress and damage ? of course.. tendons, joints, muscles, the vascular systems, the nervous system . but guess what. thats how we grow and adapt. no one ever said its going to be an easy peasy healthy experience. there is no growth without break down, stress, and adaptation .

for guys that are more concerned with overall health and living to 100 years old without even so much as a callous on their hand ,, they should probably live in a bubble and stay out of the weight room (also, they should stay away from AAS , fast cars, fast women, and good whisky, and all the other finer things in life that may take a year or two off your lifespan ).

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I realized I wasn’t specific enough right after posting that comment and I edited it, but you got to it before I had the chance to repost! Lol. I knew you would catch me on that.

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I realized I wasn’t specific enough right after posting that comment and I edited it, but you got to it before I had the chance to repost! Lol. I knew you would catch me on that.

no worries brother . I figured you probably mainly had in mind what you were talking about with blood pressure in regards to weight training and not cardio . just pointed that out to prove a point is all , NOT to discredit your comments in any way