First Cycle For Advanced Lifter

[Mula]

Thinking about Test/Anavar/Winstrol.

Basically kickstart anavar and winstrol finisher.

But not sure about winstrol (tab form) because of liver toxicity.

What would my cycle ideally look like if i go with a 10 week cycle?

Test 400mg/week Week 1-10
Anavar Week 1-8? (50mg ed)
Winstrol Week 4-10? (50mg ed)

[Test Monsterone]

So you ignore everything everyone said except family guy, who just started his first cycle. I guess you just want people to give you the green light with what you already want to do.

Family guy, no offense, but adding EQ later in the cycle makes no sense. It takes around 8 weeks to kick in and should be started with, not ended with. I find it hard to believe Gear ever recommended doing multiple compounds in the first cycle, and adding EQ later in the cycle.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

If you’re wanting to see an immediate increase in max lifts why not throw in some dianabol for the first 4 weeks? That’ll get you rockin’ and rollin’ until the test really hits around week 5.

[Family_guy]

So you ignore everything everyone said except family guy, who just started his first cycle. I guess you just want people to give you the green light with what you already want to do.

Family guy, no offense, but adding EQ later in the cycle makes no sense. It takes around 8 weeks to kick in and should be started with, not ended with. I find it hard to believe Gear ever recommended doing multiple compounds in the first cycle, and adding EQ later in the cycle.

Gear was the one who recommended to me in the first place to not do a test only cycle. That’s not what I was saying in my first post though. The reason I’m gonna add in the EQ is cuz I’m not running a 12 week cycle. I’m gonna extend it at least another 4-6 weeks . So if I added in the EQ now that’s still another 8-12 weeks.

Also if you front load the EQ which I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t with such a long ester then it doesn’t take very long to reach peak levels

[Family_guy]

Gear was the one who recommended to me in the first place to not do a test only cycle. That’s not what I was saying in my first post though. The reason I’m gonna add in the EQ is cuz I’m not running a 12 week cycle. I’m gonna extend it at least another 4-6 weeks . So if I added in the EQ now that’s still another 8-12 weeks.

Also if you front load the EQ which I don’t see why anyone wouldn’t with such a long ester then it doesn’t take very long to reach peak levels

Just to clarify though. Gear did not reccomend that I add in EQ at this point. He recommended I add in a stronger anabolic from the start. The adding in another compound like EQ right now is my own idea.

[Windex]

Thinking about Test/Anavar/Winstrol.

Basically kickstart anavar and winstrol finisher.

But not sure about winstrol (tab form) because of liver toxicity.

What would my cycle ideally look like if i go with a 10 week cycle?

Test 400mg/week Week 1-10
Anavar Week 1-8? (50mg ed)
Winstrol Week 4-10? (50mg ed)

100mg a day of oral steroids on a first run is a good way to punch your dick right into your liver.

[Family_guy]

100mg a day of oral steroids on a first run is a good way to punch your dick right into your liver.

Lmao! That’s an expression I’ve never heard before! “Punch your dick right into your liver”!? Whatever that means it doesn’t sound good

[Mula]

100mg a day of oral steroids on a first run is a good way to punch your dick right into your liver.

Ok guess Test/Anavar/Winstrol is a no go

What about Test/Anavar/Primo or Test/Anavar/Masteron then?

[Windex]

Ok guess Test/Anavar/Winstrol is a no go

What about Test/Anavar/Primo or Test/Anavar/Masteron then?

If you can't grow off a first cycle with two compounds then you failed in nutrition and training.

[Family_guy]

100mg a day of oral steroids on a first run is a good way to punch your dick right into your liver.

I’d really like to know just how liver toxic oral steroids really are. I can’t imagine they’re as toxic as drinking a 12 pack a day or going to the bar every night and getting fucked up. Think about it. Both winny and anavar especially are pharmaceuticals right? I just have a hard time believing they are really that toxic.

Arnold ran huge amounts of dbol year round back in the day. I just think this whole “orals are so liver toxic you will fuck your self up on 100mg day” is total forum rhetoric without any basis in fact.

I could certainly be wrong but I haven’t seen anything to prove how “toxic” these drugs are when taken at reasonable doses for relatively short periods of time.

Even a drug like Retin A which millions of people have used requires you to get a liver test every 6 months. And it’s still a widely used pharmaceutical. Anyways that’s my rant.

[i_SLAM_cougars]

I’d really like to know just how liver toxic oral steroids really are. I can’t imagine they’re as toxic as drinking a 12 pack a day or going to the bar every night and getting fucked up. Think about it. Both winny and anavar especially are pharmaceuticals right? I just have a hard time believing they are really that toxic.

Arnold ran huge amounts of dbol year round back in the day. I just think this whole “orals are so liver toxic you will fuck your self up on 100mg day” is total forum rhetoric without any basis in fact.

I could certainly be wrong but I haven’t seen anything to prove how “toxic” these drugs are when taken at reasonable doses for relatively short periods of time.

Even a drug like Retin A which millions of people have used requires you to get a liver test every 6 months. And it’s still a widely used pharmaceutical. Anyways that’s my rant.

Stuff like Dymethyl tren, Methyl Tren, Halotestin, and some others are pretty nasty.

anavar could probably be taken indefinitely.
Dbol probably has the same toxicity as a light beer.

[Family_guy]

Stuff like Dymethyl tren, Methyl Tren, Halotestin, and some others are pretty nasty.

anavar could probably be taken indefinitely.
Dbol probably has the same toxicity as a light beer.

Agreed. Those drugs are really bad. Not something that anyone should really ever be using unless for a short period of time.

But anavar and even dbol can’t be that bad at all like you said probably like a beer

[Mula]

Stuff like Dymethyl tren, Methyl Tren, Halotestin, and some others are pretty nasty.

anavar could probably be taken indefinitely.
Dbol probably has the same toxicity as a light beer.

What about winstrol?

[Mula]

I’d really like to know just how liver toxic oral steroids really are. I can’t imagine they’re as toxic as drinking a 12 pack a day or going to the bar every night and getting fucked up. Think about it. Both winny and anavar especially are pharmaceuticals right? I just have a hard time believing they are really that toxic.

Arnold ran huge amounts of dbol year round back in the day. I just think this whole “orals are so liver toxic you will fuck your self up on 100mg day” is total forum rhetoric without any basis in fact.

I could certainly be wrong but I haven’t seen anything to prove how “toxic” these drugs are when taken at reasonable doses for relatively short periods of time.

Even a drug like Retin A which millions of people have used requires you to get a liver test every 6 months. And it’s still a widely used pharmaceutical. Anyways that’s my rant.

Where is gearheaded?