Cycling while on TRT

[Krb367]

If you’re already running a long ester, i.e. cyp or enth and have your levels already elevated going into blast mode, it makes sense that you would hit supraphysiologic levels faster versus someone with a much lower baseline. Which is what I think you’re asking? You would already be partly front loaded, you would have a higher trough going in

Yes! Exactly what I’m trying to figure out. Bloodwork with my doctor is every 12 weeks. Trying to find out if I was to blast on a long ester if it would be a waste or not.. by the time (in a normal test cycle) it was ramping up, I’d have to cut it out to get back down to my TRT levels. At least in my experience. 500mg/week pre TRT, it wasn’t until week 6 or 7 when I really was like oh fuck. Strength and appearance would be in full swing

[SampsonandDelilah]

Yes! Exactly what I’m trying to figure out. Bloodwork with my doctor is every 12 weeks. Trying to find out if I was to blast on a long ester if it would be a waste or not.. by the time (in a normal test cycle) it was ramping up, I’d have to cut it out to get back down to my TRT levels. At least in my experience. 500mg/week pre TRT, it wasn’t until week 6 or 7 when I really was like oh fuck. Strength and appearance would be in full swing

In my opinion you’ll get there quicker, because I’ve done it and felt the effects much faster than when not on TRT...anecdotal of course. Your problem is 12 weeks is way too close and you have to return to baseline in time for your labs to read in the normal range. Know you don’t want to, but prop is going to be your best bet but it’s also a bit of a gamble titrating back to the long ester and falling in normal ranges. Did you just recently start TRT? 12 week labs are really close. If so, maybe wait until you clear the 12 week call backs and see if he moves you to 12 months (my doc started me identically but then after 3 checkups switched me to yearly). Not worth it to piss him off and have him stop your care. Could also just run a different compound (tren/Deca) and keep your test at TRT doses. Just a thought

[Krb367]

In my opinion you’ll get there quicker, because I’ve done it and felt the effects much faster than when not on TRT...anecdotal of course. Your problem is 12 weeks is way too close and you have to return to baseline in time for your labs to read in the normal range. Know you don’t want to, but prop is going to be your best bet but it’s also a bit of a gamble titrating back to the long ester and falling in normal ranges. Did you just recently start TRT? 12 week labs are really close. If so, maybe wait until you clear the 12 week call backs and see if he moves you to 12 months (my doc started me identically but then after 3 checkups switched me to yearly). Not worth it to piss him off and have him stop your care. Could also just run a different compound (tren/Deca) and keep your test at TRT doses. Just a thought

No actually it’s been over a year! Lol I go in this month and I’m gonna ask him about changing it to every 6 months. Ive been researching for the past few nights. EQ, mast, deca and tren. One of the above thrown in with TRT. Trying to determine which seems to be the most beneficial with keeping my blood work from being too thrown off.. he checks the normal TT, FT, e2, WBC, RBC, Hemo and Hema.

[SampsonandDelilah]

No actually it’s been over a year! Lol I go in this month and I’m gonna ask him about changing it to every 6 months. Ive been researching for the past few nights. EQ, mast, deca and tren. One of the above thrown in with TRT. Trying to determine which seems to be the most beneficial with keeping my blood work from being too thrown off.. he checks the normal TT, FT, e2, WBC, RBC, Hemo and Hema.

Man, he’s on it huh? Seems like overkill but whatever. 6 months seems reasonable to say the least.
I can tell you I’ve run tren while on TRT and had labs pulled during my yearly (bad timing on my part). My doc checks all the same things (extremely comprehensive) and the only thing he stated was my cholesterol levels were off and my BP was elevated...I was able to brush it off as work stress. He was cool with it but recommended some lifestyle modifications which I gladly accepted
Not saying it’ll be the same for you with regards to your labs or your docs understanding but thought it was worth sharing. Manipulating your test levels with checkups every 3 months is going to be tough (maybe some other guys can chime in with that schedule. Would suggest keeping test levels the same and let another compound do the heavy lifting while not throwing off your values. Good luck!

[Windex]

No actually it’s been over a year! Lol I go in this month and I’m gonna ask him about changing it to every 6 months. Ive been researching for the past few nights. EQ, mast, deca and tren. One of the above thrown in with TRT. Trying to determine which seems to be the most beneficial with keeping my blood work from being too thrown off.. he checks the normal TT, FT, e2, WBC, RBC, Hemo and Hema.

You can't use deca if your getting Test levels checked because Deca will inflate them (talking like 3000ng with only 150mg of Deca).

Depending on how they do the E2 calculation, the Tren will skyrocket E2. They may even do a double take on your gender.

EQ will elevate all your blood levels.

Masteron and Primobolan would be safe.


This is all assuming you don't get changed to a 6 month bloodwork schedule.

[Krb367]

You can't use deca if your getting Test levels checked because Deca will inflate them (talking like 3000ng with only 150mg of Deca).

Depending on how they do the E2 calculation, the Tren will skyrocket E2. They may even do a double take on your gender.

EQ will elevate all your blood levels.

Masteron and Primobolan would be safe.


This is all assuming you don't get changed to a 6 month bloodwork schedule.

I haven’t done much research on primo, I’ll have to look in to it. A lot of what I’ve read has pointed me towards mast, just unsure if I have low enough body fat? Everyone seems to say 10%~ is the real sweet spot to really notice the aesthetic side of it. I’ve never had it checked before.. I’ll see if I can’t find a photo of where I’m at rn. Maybe someone can give me a ballpark guess

[Krb367]

[SampsonandDelilah]

You’re lean as shit bud, nice work. I’d say you’re close to the 10% range. I’m running Mast P (400 a week) for the first time and am noticing some hardness for sure, not sure I’m blown away yet though. Only at week 3 with it and also have it alongside tren at 400. First time with Mast for me. If you decide to go that way, body fat isn’t going to be an issue for you