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    Quote Originally Posted by Faacus View Post
    I'm planning my fourth cycle, last was 1 year ago. I thynk to run 12/14 weeks Test C or Test E 500mg per week and Deca 400mg or Eq 400. Adex 0.5 eod.
    so this is basically an Arimidex cycle eh .. jk

    but my point is that high a dose of Arimidex, with only 500mg of test is way over kill . if your goal is to have a dry look and thats why your wanting to run that much arimidex (terrible idea imo by the way), then why not just run a 'dry' cycle instead of running 500mg of Test (which whole purpose is to convert to estrogen.. why run test if you don't want the estrogen conversion in the first place) with that much of an AI.

    set your cycle up so you don't have to run that much AI (most guys don't even need an AI at that low a dose of test, but just saying).

    400 Deca
    600 Mast
    50mg day Var
    (add in 100mg of test per week if you need it to function)
    No AI needed for such a set up.

    thats just an example.. but keep in mind that a majority of steroids available to us do NOT convert to estrogen. so why not run any number of those different non estrogenic compounds and not have to mess with running that much AI (which is terrible for your health imo)


    Note: Deca is more of a "retentive" compound then it is a 'wet' bloating compound.. guys that get bloated on deca are usually running too much test with it, its not the deca. heck Deca without test is clean enough to run for contest prep even (unless your super progestin sensitive)
    Last edited by GearHeaded; 06-06-2019 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    so this is basically an Arimidex cycle eh .. jk

    but my point is that high a dose of Arimidex, with only 500mg of test is way over kill . if your goal is to have a dry look and thats why your wanting to run that much arimidex (terrible idea imo by the way), then why not just run a 'dry' cycle instead of running 500mg of Test (which whole purpose is to convert to estrogen.. why run test if you don't want the estrogen conversion in the first place) with that much of an AI.

    set your cycle up so you don't have to run that much AI (most guys don't even need an AI at that low a dose of test, but just saying).

    400 Deca
    600 Mast
    50mg day Var
    (add in 100mg of test per week if you need it to function)
    No AI needed for such a set up.

    thats just an example.. but keep in mind that a majority of steroids available to us do NOT convert to estrogen. so why not run any number of those different non estrogenic compounds and not have to mess with running that much AI (which is terrible for your health imo)


    Note: Deca is more of a "retentive" compound then it is a 'wet' bloating compound.. guys that get bloated on deca are usually running too much test with it, its not the deca. heck Deca without test is clean enough to run for contest prep even (unless your super progestin sensitive)
    In the past cycles test C/E 500/600 mg E2 was always too high even with Adex 0.25 EOD and switched to 0.5 E3D (pharma grade 100%).
    I don't want to run oral steroids. In This cycle I would like to use only 2 juices (only inj).
    I'm thinking of 1-12 TEST C 400-Deca 400 adex start 0.5 e3d and BW to adjust E2 in week 5/6. HCG 1-12 500ui. PCT as above.
    Drostanolone E can give a better result than Deca?
    Is a cycle of short esters better? I've never used P tests, and I just injected my gluteus.
    I was thinking of a cycle 1-8 Test P 100 NPP 100 EOD (with Adex and HCG) but should I add another injection point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Note: Deca is more of a "retentive" compound then it is a 'wet' bloating compound.. guys that get bloated on deca are usually running too much test with it, its not the deca. heck Deca without test is clean enough to run for contest prep even (unless your super progestin sensitive)
    In my case that definitely applies. I was always told to run test at roughly double what your deca is at to avoid unpleasant DHN related side effects (deca Dick)

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