HGH usage discussion thread

[kaptainkeezy04]

HGH is lipolytic.. so even if your bulking, if you time things properly, you can still get lipolytic effects from HGH.. (calories in vs calories out, blah blah blah.. a lipolytic drug is lipolytic and you can still get fat burning even in a cal surplus).

take your HGH first thing in the morning upon waking.. within 30 mins the HGH is providing lipolytic (and glycolytic) effects. NOW just because HGH helps liberate fatty acids into the blood stream does not mean that it itself burns fat.. releasing fat from fat cells is NOT fat burning. all that that does is provide the fatty acids as an available energy source in the blood stream to THEN be used for energy by the cells. so keep that in mind, after you take your HGH you need to burn off those fatty acids otherwise they will go right back to being stored as body fat.

this is why I recommend taking HGH first thing upon waking and doing fasted cardio to help stay lean. wither your bulking or cutting.
so I'd say yes you can use HGH for a "dirty bulk"

Please show me the research you've come across that says you need to exercise when these fatty acids become available for fuel following an hgh injection, otherwise they become stored as fat again. I have never heard nor seen this, and I have a feeling this is false information.

[GearHeaded]

Please show me the research you've come across that says you need to exercise when these fatty acids become available for fuel following an hgh injection, otherwise they become stored as fat again. I have never heard nor seen this, and I have a feeling this is false information.

this is biology 101 from 7th grade science class.. fatty acids need to be oxidized as fuel by the mitochondria of the cell in order to be "burned" . just because fat is liberated from fat cells does not mean its oxidized or "burned" (it just means its liberated into the blood stream as an "available" fuel source)

sorry I'm not going to provide research on such basic shit as this . use google or go to a library and get a kids book on biology

[kaptainkeezy04]

this is biology 101 from 7th grade science class.. fatty acids need to be oxidized as fuel by the mitochondria of the cell in order to be "burned" . just because fat is liberated from fat cells does not mean its oxidized or "burned" (it just means its liberated into the blood stream as an "available" fuel source)

sorry I'm not going to provide research on such basic shit as this . use google or go to a library and get a kids book on biology

You burn calories just living. You’re saying that these fatty acids need to be burned via exercise nearly IMMEDIATELY after an hgh injection or else they go back to being stored as fat and that just is not true.

[GearHeaded]

You burn calories just living. You’re saying that these fatty acids need to be burned via exercise nearly IMMEDIATELY after an hgh injection or else they go back to being stored as fat and that just is not true.

the context here is bodybuilding. not living a normal life.. if you want the best most extreme fat loss then yes your best off burning off those fatty acids as quickly and efficiently as possible.
can you be a soccer mom and take 1iu hgh per day and get a little benefit and fat loss from that . perhaps, but thats not the context here buddy.

of course fatty acids in the blood stream get stored as body fat if they are not oxidized.. otherwise your blood triglycerides would accumulate and be through the roof.
heck even after eating a fatty meal and those fats enter the blood stream they get stored fairly rapidly.. its not normal or healthy to have tons of fatty acids floating around your blood stream. they get burned up or they get stored as fat (thats why humans are so efficient at storing body fat).
not sure why this is even being brought up at this point. very simple concept here as stated above.


think you should read a book or two before stating something is not true. you simply don't know this to be true. being ignorant of a topic is not what constitutes something being true or not (just because you may have never seen a 9 foot tall polar bear in person does not mean they don't exist , it just means your personally ignorant of the idea/fact).

if you don't even know that fatty acids in the blood stream get stored as body fat if they are not oxidized by cells and that your body is not just going to keep accumulating these fats in the blood stream ,, then your really not in a position to tell me , or anyone else, what is or is not true regarding any of the subject matter thats been discussed here.

[kaptainkeezy04]

the context here is bodybuilding. not living a normal life.. if you want the best most extreme fat loss then yes your best off burning off those fatty acids as quickly and efficiently as possible.
can you be a soccer mom and take 1iu hgh per day and get a little benefit and fat loss from that . perhaps, but thats not the context here buddy.

of course fatty acids in the blood stream get stored as body fat if they are not oxidized.. otherwise your blood triglycerides would accumulate and be through the roof.
heck even after eating a fatty meal and those fats enter the blood stream they get stored fairly rapidly.. its not normal or healthy to have tons of fatty acids floating around your blood stream. they get burned up or they get stored as fat (thats why humans are so efficient at storing body fat).
not sure why this is even being brought up at this point. very simple concept here as stated above.


think you should read a book or two before stating something is not true. you simply don't know this to be true. being ignorant of a topic is not what constitutes something being true or not (just because you may have never seen a 9 foot tall polar bear in person does not mean they don't exist , it just means your personally ignorant of the idea/fact).

if you don't even know that fatty acids in the blood stream get stored as body fat if they are not oxidized by cells and that your body is not just going to keep accumulating these fats in the blood stream ,, then your really not in a position to tell me , or anyone else, what is or is not true regarding any of the subject matter thats been discussed here.

Yet you can't site one source that says hgh causes your body to release stored fats into your blood stream and if you don't burn them, they will be stored as fat again?

[GearHeaded]

Yet you can't site one source that says hgh causes your body to release stored fats into your blood stream and if you don't burn them, they will be stored as fat again?

from your posts its clear you don't even have a basic 4th grader knowledge of biology and can't comprehend simple things like how fat is liberated and then oxidized by cells and if not 'burned up' is stored .. YET you want me to provide you with academic research and site sources to back up what I say for you in regards to something far more advanced . lol, come on man,, your killing me here haha.

[BG]

Just saw this and didnt read any of yet, I will when I have time. Just so you have a little back ground on me I used 192aa brown tops back in the beginning, you would get a red spot around the injection site and a bb size lump because you body would try to reject it, then red/blue generics, pinwheels from Manta, Jin's straight from GenSci (Chen), all the fake generics, Saizen, Omnitrope, Humatrope and Sero's at the end.

Ive done every protocol from eod big shots, to 3x ed, to 5/2 before/after gym, so on and so forth.

Best way imo, 3x a day 7 days ew for sure, more pulses the better and after 40 yrs old before bed with the last shot. On my heavy days I would go big on my bed time inject, it really makes a difference. We know that's when your body naturally releases your biggest pulse when we first hit rem sleep so your body recovers from your daily abuse, but after 40 that is very minimal so I believe its great to replace it.

I would train one day then the next would be just cardio and filler stuff so those filler days I would only take 1 to 1.5iu's 3 times a day, then on the real training days I would split 7iu's up, 1.5/1.5/4 iu's. This would save the kits a little, they go fast Again, definitely 7 days a week.

[HoldMyBeer]

Please show me the research you've come across that says you need to exercise when these fatty acids become available for fuel following an hgh injection, otherwise they become stored as fat again. I have never heard nor seen this, and I have a feeling this is false information.

this is biology 101 from 7th grade science class.. fatty acids need to be oxidized as fuel by the mitochondria of the cell in order to be "burned" . just because fat is liberated from fat cells does not mean its oxidized or "burned" (it just means its liberated into the blood stream as an "available" fuel source)

sorry I'm not going to provide research on such basic shit as this . use google or go to a library and get a kids book on biology

Here's a good one. There are a dozen more. Reading studies is a bitch, I recommend starting with the conclusion and then going back and working your easy through the abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12679475/
Basically, GH is correct. Higher HGH levels means more FFA (free fatty acids) means more fat loss

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