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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    I belibe this is true to a certain extent. This is totally anecdotal based off my own experience with my first cycle(obviously I’m no expert but this is my experience). When I was injecting Test E 2x per week I was getting oilier skin and more acne. When I switched to ED injections the oily skin basically went away. The acne got much better also. It would seem to make sense that you would still want to have more stable levels vs peaks and valleys even if your not on TRT and just doing a cycle.

    When your Test is rising your body reacts accordingly right? Increasing sebum production as well as all the other things AAS increase. When your levels are falling your body decreases these things as well. But when your body is basically at a state of “homeostasis” if you will then why wouldn’t there be less side effects?
    I think this is true for a lot of guys,, especially guys that run low dosages ( Note: I consider anything under 1000mg of test per week for example a low dosage.. its at the 1000+ range that test becomes fairly anabolic, but lower then that its mainly an androgen and a very mild anabolic).

    so if your running say 500mg of test per week (which is a high TRT dose).. you never get to that ultra supra physiological range and your much more susceptible to fluctuation levels , ie, "peaks" and "valleys".. and like I said I think a lot of guys notice these fluctuations and experience more side effects when their levels are fluctuating. so guys that run low dosages may very well be better off doing more frequent injections.
    some guys don't notice a difference though (I've done daily and I've done once every 10 days .. don't notice much a difference . I'm talking when I'm just on a cruise dose).

    but guys that are running higher dosages.. 1500- 2 grams of test per week, with say 2 grams of other AAS. they have so much "sand on the beach" sort of speak, that they are not going to notice a drop off in a couple of buckets of sand one way or the other.
    but if your only running say 600mg of test and 400mg of deca,, its quite possible to notice a drop off from not keeping consistent blood levels (again this is person dependent .. some guys won't notice , and perhaps other guys may get more or less sides).


    on a bit of a side note here-- for women. I've been told that women have less sides and do better running androgens when they specifically try to keep inconsistent blood levels. by not being exposed to a constant elevated level of androgens they will have less androgenic side effects.
    so if a women wanted to run Test Prop, she would be better off NOT doing daily injections, and do an injection only 1-2 x per week so her levels have time to fall off.
    I don't have any first hand experience with this as I only advocate female clients of mine run only anabolics and not androgens. but the info I received was from a fairly high level coach that has worked with female bodybuilders.
    IF this is the case, its interesting and quite different then what your experiencing by having more side effects when levels drop off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    I think this is true for a lot of guys,, especially guys that run low dosages ( Note: I consider anything under 1000mg of test per week for example a low dosage.. its at the 1000+ range that test becomes fairly anabolic, but lower then that its mainly an androgen and a very mild anabolic).

    so if your running say 500mg of test per week (which is a high TRT dose).. you never get to that ultra supra physiological range and your much more susceptible to fluctuation levels , ie, "peaks" and "valleys".. and like I said I think a lot of guys notice these fluctuations and experience more side effects when their levels are fluctuating. so guys that run low dosages may very well be better off doing more frequent injections.
    some guys don't notice a difference though (I've done daily and I've done once every 10 days .. don't notice much a difference . I'm talking when I'm just on a cruise dose).

    but guys that are running higher dosages.. 1500- 2 grams of test per week, with say 2 grams of other AAS. they have so much "sand on the beach" sort of speak, that they are not going to notice a drop off in a couple of buckets of sand one way or the other.
    but if your only running say 600mg of test and 400mg of deca,, its quite possible to notice a drop off from not keeping consistent blood levels (again this is person dependent .. some guys won't notice , and perhaps other guys may get more or less sides).


    on a bit of a side note here-- for women. I've been told that women have less sides and do better running androgens when they specifically try to keep inconsistent blood levels. by not being exposed to a constant elevated level of androgens they will have less androgenic side effects.
    so if a women wanted to run Test Prop, she would be better off NOT doing daily injections, and do an injection only 1-2 x per week so her levels have time to fall off.
    I don't have any first hand experience with this as I only advocate female clients of mine run only anabolics and not androgens. but the info I received was from a fairly high level coach that has worked with female bodybuilders.
    IF this is the case, its interesting and quite different then what your experiencing by having more side effects when levels drop off.
    That does make sense. I was only on 500mg/ week. Also like you said some guys don’t notice any difference and some do.

    I’ve also heard that about women running androgens and trying not to have stable levels to mitigate sides. I Assume it would be different for women but I’d love to hear first hand from a woman with experience

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