1 Compound At A Time Or More?

[Mr.Smith54]

GH,
What are your thoughts on a lean mass cycle with low dose (250/wk) test, Keepable gains w/minimal compounds? Oils or orals.

[GearHeaded]

GH,
What are your thoughts on a lean mass cycle with low dose (250/wk) test, Keepable gains w/minimal compounds? Oils or orals.

I'm a fan of low dose test cycles .. heck even 'no dose' test cycles. as long as you got your estrogen, androgens, and dht covered with other compounds then you don't even need test.. however, being test is estrogenic, androgenic, and converts to DHT , its pretty darn convenient and covers all your basis.
I just got done 'cruising' for 8 weeks with no test (just low dose eq and low dose tren) and felt great.

if you want to mass with low dose test then I recommend using something like Dbol to give you your estrogen your going to need to grow. then for your anabolics your going to want to run a 'wet' retentive based compound like nandrolone (npp or deca), and perhaps anadrol. then for your androgen load you can add in low dose Tren or even Masteron (yes, you can use mast to bulk. its basically just going to add androgen load to your cycle, its not just for cutting . plus its synergestic with 19 nors).

so something like
test 200mg
deca 600mg
Masteron 300mg
Dbol 50mg day

[Mr.Smith54]

You always hear about running more test than deca when running those 2 compounds. With your stack should you include caber for the deca?

[GearHeaded]

You always hear about running more test than deca when running those 2 compounds. With your stack should you include caber for the deca?

deca is a progestin . running more test then deca is just fine to add androgen load to your cycle , but being deca is a progestin the added test will result in more estrogen conversion and the deca is already making you super sensitive to estrogen. so its really person dependent thing here. if your not estrogen sensitive then more test and more estrogen will be a benefit to you.. if you are estrogen sensitive, and deca will make you even more sensitive, then you'll want to keep your test dosage very low.

Deca is also NOT very androgenic, in fact it can be anti androgenic due to its conversion to DHN (rather then DHT). having a low androgen cycle is great for women and great for men in some circumstances . however if you want some androgen load to your deca cycle, then yes you'll have to run more test . OR you can run Masteron for androgen effects like my cycle example has included.


NO . I do not agree that you need to run Caber with deca. caber is ONLY beneficial if your prolactin levels are elevated. most guys get prolactin like side effects from deca being a progestin, but don't even have elevated prolactin (its just because the deca is acting on progestin receptors). caber does nothing for this and can cause more harm then good . only run caber if you have actual elevated prolactin confirmed by blood work. 95% of guys are running caber and prami when they don't have elevated prolactin to begin with