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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Even tho I feel like I look smaller, my weight is going up some. The Tren/mast after a week or so is a different look than what I’m used to idk why. Pump is insane but strength seems down. 190lb on the lat pull down was heavy. Could be I get so out of breath after a short set. This could be a Tren affect. But the Tren is low dose like 200mg a week. Huge pumps, night sweats, and just overall very snappy. Sort of like a hungry dog, just assholish I guess. Takes nothing to set me off. Like I said only about 10 days in on the Tren. But I know it’s legit. Just thought I’d be stronger, maybe it’s too low a dose. Since my return with bodybuilding I have kept what I’ve done steroid wise very minimal dosing with exception of a 50mg dbol dose a few months back I ran with trt.

    On vacation this week so I couldn’t risk bringing the gear with me so I will have a 4 day window between tren injections . Couldn’t help, could not risk it. Not like I’m getting ready for a show anyway. Alright guys, just had to rant.
    Welcome to Tren. Those are all the classic effects of tren. Tells me you have legit gear. Lol

    With Tren/mast you will get very dry and have insane vascularity as well. The dryness will sometimes cause joint pain in some as well. Night sweats drive my insane. I am hot natured anyway. The assholishness never hit me. I always think those are mostly mentality. If you believe this is going to happen, it definitely will manifest. But I am also a pretty chill person anyway. I don’t get excited, rattled or pissed off hardly ever.

    Your dose is fine. Pretty standard first run. I like 50/50/50 EOD Tren/Mast/Prop. One injection. I have also ran 75/75/75. I always like to run minimums. It’s a little easier on the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kynetguy View Post
    Welcome to Tren. Those are all the classic effects of tren. Tells me you have legit gear. Lol

    With Tren/mast you will get very dry and have insane vascularity as well. The dryness will sometimes cause joint pain in some as well. Night sweats drive my insane. I am hot natured anyway. The assholishness never hit me. I always think those are mostly mentality. If you believe this is going to happen, it definitely will manifest. But I am also a pretty chill person anyway. I don’t get excited, rattled or pissed off hardly ever.

    Your dose is fine. Pretty standard first run. I like 50/50/50 EOD Tren/Mast/Prop. One injection. I have also ran 75/75/75. I always like to run minimums. It’s a little easier on the body.
    I strongly agree with less is more im getting to old to high doses again. Besides im better now than i ever was on high dose gear.

    Next run with tren may be 100/200 tren/mast eod. Although this may be too high to tolerate thinking on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    I strongly agree with less is more im getting to old to high doses again. Besides im better now than i ever was on high dose gear.

    Next run with tren may be 100/200 tren/mast eod. Although this may be too high to tolerate thinking on it
    The bad thing about high doses, especially as you get older, is the gains are not sustainable. You will look great for a month, and they melt away. Your test normalizing is the biggest culprit. You have to have the test to sustain the mass. Your diet tends to have more cheat days. Your workouts slack because you don’t have additional money invested.

    Plus when you get older, you get that old man strength. Where you are stronger than you look...lol

    never tried Mast higher than tren. I always kept them the same. I cannot advise on this one.
    Last edited by kynetguy; 07-31-2019 at 08:55 PM. Reason: forgot tren/mast comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kynetguy View Post
    The bad thing about high doses, especially as you get older, is the gains are not sustainable. You will look great for a month, and they melt away. Your test normalizing is the biggest culprit. You have to have the test to sustain the mass. Your diet tends to have more cheat days. Your workouts slack because you don’t have additional money invested.

    Plus when you get older, you get that old man strength. Where you are stronger than you look...lol

    never tried Mast higher than tren. I always kept them the same. I cannot advise on this one.
    This is precisely why I never come off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kynetguy View Post
    The bad thing about high doses, especially as you get older, is the gains are not sustainable. You will look great for a month, and they melt away. Your test normalizing is the biggest culprit. You have to have the test to sustain the mass. Your diet tends to have more cheat days. Your workouts slack because you don’t have additional money invested.

    Plus when you get older, you get that old man strength. Where you are stronger than you look...lol

    never tried Mast higher than tren. I always kept them the same. I cannot advise on this one.
    look at someone like Charger , he is in his 50s and has put on 25 pounds of stage weight in 2 years. he is continually progressing and making great gains.
    he is proof that you can sustain gains from your high dose cycles as long as your 'cruise' phases are set up properly

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    look at someone like Charger , he is in his 50s and has put on 25 pounds of stage weight in 2 years. he is continually progressing and making great gains.
    he is proof that you can sustain gains from your high dose cycles as long as your 'cruise' phases are set up properly

    That's awesome! Especially since I'm an old fvck myself.....
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